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Fighting The Spammers Down Under
An Anonymous Coward writes: "The Sydney Morning Herald is running an interesting article about fighting spammers. It mentions that "Most of today's email spam, however, comes from a handful of culprits, described by Barry and others as "known criminals"." Does anybody else wonder who these people are, and what are the odds of having them shut down for good?"
Everyone always goes on about SPAM and how bad it is and how we don't like to get it....... The real problem is that it must be profitable for some individuals to do it otherwise it wouldn't happen (save the handful of ppl who just like to do it for fun, similar to graffiti). I have a some contact with the advertising and marketing industries here in Aus and I can tell you that from the pure marketing point of view it does look attractive. The marketing ppl rarely consider the annoyance factor, they just want nice numbers... ie "so you can send this out to 1000s of people, Great! How much per person.... what's that, its a LOT cheaper then mail, WOW put me down for 50000"... and so the corporate world pays for what we hate. Sure there might be exceptions, but I bet that this is the norm, esp in cases when the marketing department has 0 exposure to technology and so doesn't suffer like the rest of us.
Spam is "spam" until registrations, licenses, warranty agreements, etc, require a valid email address and/or an opt-in to that company's "news". Then it becomes legit. i get plenty of unsolicited email from companies legitly possessing my addy, even email with opt-out links. if every company i interact with sends me just one of these, that's still a lot of undesirable, often image- and HTML-laden emails to have show up.
That's why i don't think spam will cease to be a problem for end-users, even if the signal-to-porn ratio improves.
but i'd rather hit delete a few times per day (i don't get more than 10 spam mails a day) and know the internet is still relatively free. yes, they're sleaze, but if you're going to start blocking them, it's not that hard for a few other domains to be slipped in there. the potential for censorship seems too great to me *shrug*
so i'll continue deleting my 10 mails per day.
Kraada
Sure, spam is probably profitable: it transfers most of the cost of advertising to the (probably unwilling) receipiant, and nobody ever went broke underestimating the Good Taste of the American public.
The problem with spam is that the dirty details of spam disassociates it from market forces, unlike other, more conventional forms of advertising.
In just about every other form of ad (radio or Tee Vee commercial, newspaper ad, billboard, etc) the advertiser pays for the ad up front, before you make a decision to buy the advertised product or not. So, if the ad is particularly repulsive, ("Ring around the collar!") the consumer can make a decision to not buy the product. The advertiser is out the cost of the ad. Of course, the cost of any advertised product is higher than an unadvertised product, so the consumers who chose to buy an advertised product ultimately pay for a portion of the advertising.
Contrast this with a spammed ad: the consumer has paid for his or her network time to receive the ad, the disk space to store the ad and the CPU cycles it took to process the email ad before getting a chance to decide whether to buy the spamvertised product or not. No matter how repugnant, stupid, wasteful, or dumb the ad is, the consumer ends up paying for the spamertising. Only very weak market forces control spamvertising. That's the real problem with spam.
Email spamming is theft, plain and simple. Email spammers must be punished.
I have yet to receive SPAM from a company I could even Boycott. Since I don't regular buy goods or services from Jerry's Triangle Scheme, or Joe-Bob's Porn site, a boycott isn't going to do much. Maybe if Subway started spamming me I'd stop going there, but I don't get any SPAM from any companies I've ever even heard of before.
Actually, I think all the SPAM I get can be put into a few categories:
There's your get-rich-quick SPAM, covering a myriad of pryamid schemes and others. Then there's your 'insider information' SPAM telling you what stock to buy. 'Porno SPAM' speaks for itself. 'Weight loss and Sexual medicine' group has to be one of my favorites. You can lump the rest into 'actual seems like they're trying to sell me something' group or the 'wtf is this?' group.
What?
You see, mobile phones ring or vibrate when they get spammed. It's worse than ordinary spam because email addresses are usually the same as your phone number, giving an easy target to spam programs.
My friend has two phones registered with slightly different names, and they ring within 10 seconds of each other, about once an hour or so. His FOMA (3G, streaming video) phone is real special. It does a pirouette on his desk because it is vibrating so strongly.
Imagine it. Everyone who has these phones (millions) gets this ringing all the time, even in the middle of the night. DoCoMo recently offered custom mail addresses to combat it but still..
It's already being done. If you're interested, run one yourself -- every spam message trapped by a honeypot is a spam message that doesn't get to its recipients. Brad Madison runs one on a university VAX machine and Michael Tokarev runs one in Russia. Both are fairly heavily trafficed by spammers.
See Brad's page Fighting Relay Spam for more information on running your own SMTP relay honeypot.
See posts like this one to see that these honeypots are working.