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The Apache/Sun Relationship Worsens

Posted by Hemos on from the gotta-loosen-your-grip-on-java dept.

d6y writes "Over on the O'Reilly weblogs there's an entry on the relationship between Sun's Java Community Process and Apache. Sun have been rubbing people up with wrong way (the problems of licensing open source J2EE containers; stuts v. JavaFaces; log4j v. JDK 1.4 logging....) and I hope this gets sorted out real soon. See also the original VNUNet article and Apache's position paper."

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  1. Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Apache is 2nd-rate garbage compared to J2EE. It isn't even as fast as J2EE for dynamic content, for christ's sake. 'Java is slow,' indeed.

  2. Apache by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Apache isn't suitable for an enteprise environment anyway. That's why Sun is getting away from it - being linked to such a piece of garbage hurts their image as an enterprise Unix.

  3. Java vs Apache, its an easy decision. by thogard · · Score: -1, Troll

    I've been using Sun gear for a long time. I've got a real live working 12 year old sun sparcstation that still does its job and I use their new gear. I've played with the sun 10k as well so I'm not a stranger to their enviroment.

    From what I've seen, Java sucks. That may be a result of me being an old C loving bastard but I don't expect to see the C++ for morons around in 10 years. If sun wants a language for programmers that need hand holding, they need a VB clone. hell, I've given then over a thousand workstations on a platter if they can can get someone to modify the yacc source in Kernighan&Pike's Unix programming enviroment to grok 85% of VB but they are stuck with Java. Well sorry suckers but in my local book stores, the amount of shelf space on Java books is heading down and thats a sign that the language has gone the way of Ada, Pascal and others. I figure Java books will be very hard to find in 5 years if not impossable.

    One of the major supporters of Java at sun is Bill Joy. Keep in mind that this is the person that created the vi editor. The vi editor (which I use every day) is considered to be great work or insanly impossable to use. This can be proven by taking any random user and approaching them with the concepts behind vi. Based on those connections, what is Java's place in the world? It sure as hell isn't os class language and its not a language for amature programmers (because VB wins that one). So whats left? I expect AT&T's cyclone will out live Java. I know C and perl and fortran and cobol will.

  4. suck this down and your ip ban with it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

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  5. Re:Really Odd... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Nevermind that the JBoss lead coder supports bin Laden (as seen on Javalobby.org on Sept 12th).