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What's So Bad about e-Mail Forwarding?

westfirst asks: "I run a few small domains on a co-lo server. Many of the customers forward their mail from these domains to their home accounts and a surprisingly large number use Road Runner at home. This weekend, Road Runner started blocking all mail from the co-lo farm. The co-lo manager who runs the block of IP addresses seems to feel that this is 'within Road Runner's rights'. They didn't warn anyone and don't seem to be doing much to get the service going again. One customer tells me that, 'Road Runner doesn't accept forwarded mail. They said they finally caught me.' So what's so bad about forwarded mail? Does Road Runner want everyone to use their email services to get people locked into their accounts? Or is this just a last ditch effort to stop the Spamasaurus devouring the net?" This is confusing to me. If none of the users complained about mail from the co-lo, what right does Road Runner have in blocking legal mail for its users? All e-mail is based on forwarding. You break forwarding, and you break SMTP. It's open-relays that are the problem, not anyone who relays. There is a difference here. This behavior is extremely shady to me. I have no problem with ISPs blocking traffic from a location, but if an ISP has cause to do that, then they should say so. What do you think?

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  1. Has the server been blacklisted? by CritterNYC · · Score: 3, Informative

    Head over to openrbl.org or osirusoft or Sam Spade and see if the server has been listed in any blacklists. If so, that's probably why your mail has been blocked. If not, contact road runner and find out what's up.

  2. I'm the opposite... by ChrisKnight · · Score: 2, Informative

    I am a RR customer, and I have NEVER even activated my RR email account. I have email elsewhere and I access it via IMAP over a SSL connection.

    Frankly, I would never want any of my email sitting on a server owned by RR.

    -Chris

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  3. Re:several things.... by madHomer · · Score: 2, Informative

    >Also, how can it be determined that an email was .forward'ed?

    You can kinda tell by how many "Received:" lines there are in the header.

    Below is an example that went from source --> forward1 --> forward2 --> final destination (yahoo)

    Received: from europa.your-site.com (140.186.45.14) by mta424.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jan 2002 22:57:34 -0800 (PST)
    Received: from europa.your-site.com ([127.0.0.1]) by europa.your-site.com ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 01:57:31 -0500
    Received: from mail63.csoft.net ([63.111.22.80]) by europa.your-site.com ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 01:57:30 -0500
    Received: from mail.active.com (64.70.19.233) by mail63.csoft.net with SMTP; 22 Jan 2002 06:57:30 -0000

  4. Re:what's left in the header after you forward it? by Hall · · Score: 2, Informative

    1. You and I may know how to configure a POP mailbox, and how to use multiple mailboxes, but your average surfer does not.

    Bash Microsoft all anyone wants, but with Outlook Express, for example, it's terribly simple to add additional POP accounts. The problem most people run into is they try and use the smtp server of the same domain they've just added. Many, many ISPs don't allow this and it's really no big deal. It just has to made clear that they enter the smtp/outgoing server for the ISP they've dialed into (or DSL, cable, etc).

  5. RoadRunner blocking forwarded e-mail? by Meleschi · · Score: 3, Informative

    Cliff,

    PLease forward me any information you have on this "block" roadrunner has for you. I'll do some digging, and find the reasl reason, but I can guarantee that RR has NOT stopped all forwarded e-mails from working correctly.

    E-mail me, and we'll work through the details...

    Thanks,
    Ricardo

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