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Sun to Charge for Star Office 6.0
biwillia writes: "According to
this
heise article (in German, or Google translated), free versions of Star Office will now only be available to Solaris users. Free versions for Linux and Windows users will no longer be offered. A homemade translation of the first paragraph reads, 'With version 6.0 of Star Office, scheduled to be released in May, Sun has changed the product politics of their Office package, which had been freely distributed since the aquisition of Hamburg-based Star Division. In the future, Sun wishes to charge license fees for usage of the Windows and Linux versions. Only the version for Sun's own operation system Solaris will remain free.'"
Open Office will remain free though.
I have a colleague that's a fairly heavy wordprocessor user. For a while she used Star Office 6.0 beta and liked it. After a minor disaster (crashing HD), we helped her get her machine reinstalled. Just to try it out, we installed Open Office instead. Turns out it's at least as good as the 'real' StarOffice, and she has been happy with it.
So, StarOffice for a branded package with support and feel-good factor for people unsure about this newfangled OPen Source thing; and Open Office for all the rest of us. Fair enough.
/Janne
Trust the Computer. The Computer is your friend.
OpenOffice.org does have spellchecking.
yup. i believe staroffice had a proprietary spellchecker and database functionality. openoffice has made enough progress to eliminate most of those extensions however...
It's quite possible (though I don't know for sure - I never bothered to download it) that the Star Office beta will "drop dead". A lot of beta versions of various things are made with a built-in drop-dead date after which they will stop working.
If you're a zombie and you know it, bite your friend!
from http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/mostfaqs.html#7
Differences between StarOffice and OpenOffice.org
o The source code available at OpenOffice.org does not consist of all of the StarOffice code. Usually, the reason for this is that Sun pays to license third party code to include in StarOffice that which it does not have permission to make available in OpenOffice.org. Those things which are or will be present in StarOffice but are not available on OpenOffice.org include:
+ Certain fonts (including, especially, Asian language fonts)
+ The database component (Adabas D)
+ Some templates
+ Extensive Clip Art Gallery
+ Some sorting functionality (Asian versions)
+ Certain file filters
I don't know about building it, but I've been using their binary release builds for the better part of a year now, and have been quite pleased.
As any project in active development, it has crashed a few times, however every time the crash recovery reopens every document I had open, right down to where the cursor was. Pretty damned slick.
Not to mention it's opened every MS Office document I've thrown at it without a problem. Definitely not complaining.
then ensures that the ssl stuff doesnt work with the non blocking i/o due to the bugs present in java 1.4 which was rushed to the door too early
java.net.ssl is distinct from java.nio.* libraries, and it was known months ago that Sun was not going to provide an SSL nio library. See this article.
Hint: it's from last September.
I work for Sun, and submitted this story more than a month ago when we received internal email about the plans to charge for StarOffice.
FWIW, here's the original email that was sent out on Friday, January 11:
New Business Model for StarOffice/StarSuite 6.0
I am pleased to announce some significant changes to the StarOffice marketing strategy and corresponding business model. Along with our top goals of enabling desktop sales for Sun and being a critical component of the Sun ONE software stack, StarOffice is moving to a revenue based model. The major changes to the business model are:
Two products available to the market: (1)StarOffice/StarSuite 6.0 (Enterprise Edition) -- Sun sells & supports, (2) OpenOffice (Community Edition) -- free from OpenOffice.org and other sites outside of Sun
Other changes will include:
- Removal of the full function, no-charge downloads from Sun
- StarOffice 6.0 and service offerings available on GSO prices list at FCS (per copy, site license, OEM and channel pricing)
- Global distribution channels: GSO, OEMs, Retail, Sun Store
The goal of this new business model is to generate revenue by providing a low cost, full featured office productivity alternative to the market place. Feedback from the market validates that customers are placing an economic value on StarOffice that is significantly greater than zero. This model allows Sun to generate new revenue from these customers willing to pay for StarOffice as well as creating pull for new systems, software and services revenue.
For those customers that would like to use a basic office suite at no charge, a "Community Edition" will continue to be available via the OpenOffice.org project and other download sites outside of Sun.
This is an exciting time for StarOffice as customers, partners, press and analyst community are eager for a viable alternative and highly supportive of our efforts.
Over the next 90 days, SSG will be focused on delivering:
Stay tuned for more details on the specific programs and pricing to be available soon.
Pat Sueltz
EVP and GM, Software Systems Group
Umm, unless I'm mistaken - isn't OpenOffice missing an Access database clone? I recall a database being included in StarOffice.
That, alone, might make it worthwhile for some people to pay for StarOffice.
OpenOffice has excellent support for MS formats. StarOffice may or may not be have better filters, but I haven't noticed a difference.
It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning.
You made a really strong point there but I would say that mozilla is actualy "best" then netscape 6... hmm...
a. There is never any tag along software that I didn't want. It has nearly all the same features (and will have a spell checker soon), has been consitently more stable, and bugs are fixed and new versions released nightly... I don't know why we would complain.
> The same codebase, but a commercial version that has extras that, when you get right down to it, just aren't necessary.
Not really, Netscape is not commercial. It's free (as in beer). Proprietary as it is, it's still not for charge like SO Is now.
Sun has dibs on key components and a report here on slash dot just a few months ago indicated they were optioning them. Further, CNet has an article going up monday morning about Sun serving the OpenOffice project team legally with a cease and desist writ.
Sad day indeed.
Nothing imports/exports visio files. I have tried both Kivio and Dia and found Dia more feature complete replacement for visio. By the way, Visio 5.0 runs perfectly under wine.
tcboo
That's only correct for the English version - German speaking users won't be able to use OpenOffice professionally because there is NO spellchecker and no thesaurus either in the German version.
This is particularily sad as StarOffice was originally a German product and is used way more frequently in Europe than in the US.
I had this application form for a job sent to me in MS Word 2000 format and the person who designed the template obviously could not resist the temptation; the document crashed StarOffice beta (did not have OpenOffice on hand at that time) and only partially opened on KWord.
So I bit the bullet, used MSWordViewer under CrossOver and found out... that it could not even Copy-n-Paste the whole document. Bummer. Had to use someone else's computer to open it.
And what causes this? Oh, the document had.. believe it or not.. radio buttons, and drop-down lists. To select simple things like titles, etc. Even the columns for names are text boxes.
Quite sad that some companies seem hell-bent on using all available features just because they can. Now I understand why Office is said to be a viral software (must be why they don't like the GPL competition).
Michel
Michel
Fedora Project Contribut
Well,
IMHO it is *easier* to integrate Visio-Drawings
into a StarOffice document, because StarOffice
supports EPS !
One of several reasons why I like StarOffice is that instead of useless and annoying fluff like animated paperclips and "I think you are writing a letter"-shit, they implmenented support for fileformats like EPS.
That's what I call software for professional use !
BTW: Thanks for reminding me of this, importing Visio drawings as WMF or JPG into Word was really pissing me off !
cheers,
Rainer
Windows 2000 - from the guys who brought us edlin
I don't think that managers believe that free software is no good or that "you get what you pay for"; they probably realize that there a lot of good, free products out there. It is MONEY, though, that keeps a product and a company going - managers want to know that the product they are using will be here next month and next year and hasn't been abandoned for lack of funding.