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Email (and Filters) for all Australian schools

Tom Davies writes: "Every student and teacher in the state of New South Wales will have an email address and web access by March. And porn filtering to go with it, according to this article in the Sydney Morning Herald."

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  1. How one tech school is dealing with US laws by York+the+Mysterious · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Thanks to the good US of A all schools that want to get their e-rate must now filter their web access. I got to a school that has had open access for years on a special agreement with the district which filters via a Cisco Pix firewall and websense (grr). Anyways even though we dont spend out days looking at porn (for the most part) we're filtered now. I figured out a nice way to get us around this. The law states that the schools must block sites, but doesn't say they have to do a good job. I have a Redhat 7.2 box setup running Squid and I'm working to get Squidguard up to block a list of about 100,000 sites. Only porn and not using expressions. This is a pathetic amount of sites and does no real good, but since our students dont look at it and we are blocking it will allow us to get our e-rate. Loop-holes are your friend

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    1. Re:How one tech school is dealing with US laws by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      we use this at my highschool (in australia) and it works really really well... granted the blocklist is quite bulky :P but it works well...

      the beauty with this approach also is that
      1) its all logged, and so if there are any "incidents" (as we had a while ago of some shmuck sending a death threat to a company) we can track them down and bash their heads in with two bricks

      2) put a ssh client in a network share for admin and you can instantly add things to the block list from anywhere, including trustable students (such as myself :P) who can do it during class when the looser next to him is looking up "skanky hot babes"..... its funny how he gets to a site, and then it is suddenly blocked :P lol...

      anyhu... this really is a great, low cost solution to stoping students browse "unacceptable material" from school...

      next... to replace the NT4 server with samba...

  2. Why the single-minded focus on pornography? by smartipants · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "...prevent sexually explicit material, pornography or material regarded as inappropriate for different age groups getting through"

    Interesting that they mention sexual material twice, then lump all other objectionable material into a bin called "innappropriate" at the end. Why is sex our top priority when censoring for minors? Why not violence, hate propaganda, religious cults, and gun catalogues?

    I think it's pretty representative of how out-of-wack regulator's attitudes are towards sex in general. I can think of many more things I'd rather prevent my kids from seeing than a little nudity.

  3. Tender was inane. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Posting anonymously for obvious reasons.

    I work at a company that responsed to the NSW Govt tender to supply this system. The tender was always going to be won by one of the big integraters. [think about the usual suspects]. The tender was always going to be running on an inferior product aswell, which is perhaps more concerning because ITS MY DAMNED TAX PAYED MONEY.

    We did the math on a Microsoft solution, and a Unix solution based on a planet floating around the yellow ball.

    The Microsoft solution, USING numbers from their white paper on their site for scaling exchange2000 to millions of users;

    Scaling Exchange to 3 Million Users [have a look its one of the funniest things ive ever read, sorry about the .doc format]

    worked out to be using about 200 or so 4 way Intel machines to reach the numbers in the tender. 200 fsking machines just for SMTP and POP. Webmail was more. Unfortunately it looks like our esteemed government went down a similar route after been con[ed][in]sulted by one of these morons. I guess thats my rates for the next ten years.

  4. Re:Show me the... by ender81b · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Maybe I should've explained the policy better.

    Information on condoms, or anything related to sex-education is OK, even doing research for a class on porn is fine (note from instructor is required). What isn't OK is defined here:
    Personal use of any University information system to access, download, print, store, forward, transmit or distribute obscene material.

    Note the words Personal and the word obscene (as defined by the Supreme Court), too lazy to look up the link.

    There are absolutely no filtering programs in effect on any of the computers on campus. This is left entirely in the judgement of the consultants maning the labs, i.e. me. Basically I see some beasty porn, some C**shots, etc and I kick them out of the library. Sounds harsh from a ACLU member doesn't it? Well you catch people masturbating to porn (never women I might add *Sigh) when you are working and then see just how happy you are to see it.

    Policy isn't bad and is really quite reasonable. Just don't look at porn to get off and you don't violate the policy.

  5. Re:what i'd do (if i ran the school) by fferreres · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I managed my father's IT for a while, as a hobby. I have always believed in irrestricted access to the net.

    What did i found out? That while some used it very wiselly, other just surfed for pr0n, news, chat, ICQ, etc. whenever they where alone or unwatched.

    Of course, some guys had a balance between pr0n and work and some others did not.

    I tried everything and reached the conclusion not everyone is resposible and depending on the case, i could just talk to them, or ban them from www and/or email.

    Some people are addicts, they can't restrict themselves a bit and they KNOW they are wasting time. They just can't help it, and i find it better to ban them from certain things than to have their boss fire them.

    Another solution would have been to let thing escalate (not because i'd tell anyone), but because it becomes evident.

    I better like the monitor and punish strategy than the to limit EVERYONE because of a few.

    Hard experience...what would you do?

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  6. Re:Geez, they're a strange mob up north. by Bargearse · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It is a statewide thing.

    About 2 or 3 years ago, the Victorian government subsidised the hookup of a 64k ISDN line to every school where it was possible - which basically amounts to nearly all of them as most of the schools are in the greater Melbourne area.

    Along with this came a free e-mail address for every teacher in the state.

    Three different levels of filtering have been available - none, restrictive (no porn/warez/hotmail) and very restrictive (selected educational sites only).

    The sad thing is that the links were provided by Telstra, who have now decided to more than triple the price.. for schools that have enough trouble paying their teachers and buying resources already.

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