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MySQL AB and Nusphere Go to Court Over GPL

A little fairy whispered in our ear: "MySQL AB is seeking a temporary injunction against NuSphere, even though they've finally released the source code for Gemini and MySQL Advantage. According to the GPL, NuSphere lost the right to redistribute when they violated #3 by not providing the source code originally. The FSF will testify tomorrow in court, according to this Newsforge article." Newsforge and Slashdot are both part of OSDN. We've done a couple of previous stories about the MySQL AB vs. Nusphere conflict: the original story, a follow-up, and a note about a countersuit. Update: 02/26 21:15 GMT by T : bkuhn (Bradley Kuhn of the Free Software Foundation) writes: "The FSF has a press release on the matter and affidavit that we filed is also available."

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  1. Ramifications? by nakhla · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What will be the ramifications if the GPL doesn't hold up in court? If the GPL hasn't been challenged in court thus far, this could have far reaching implications within the Linux community. If the GPL doesn't hold up, does that mean Microsoft is free to take large chunks of GPL'd software and make it proprietary?

  2. Re:Hmm.. are they the same?? by jsprat · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Minor nit: mysql.org and mysql.com now point to the same IP. The canonical address is/was mysql.com, but the real MySQL site can be found using either address. This was settled (or maybe not, read the link ;) soon after the original story broke.

    NuSphere clearly didn't do "the right thing" and I hope they get their butts kicked.

  3. GPL is UNRELATED to EULAs by alexhmit01 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    EULAs are a strange beast. They are a non-negotiated contract made through click-through or breaking a seal for something that you purchased already. The theory behind a EULA is that you contract to the EULA. You do not need a license to run software. If you need to clikc Agree to use the software, have you enterred into a contract? That's an INTERESTING legal question.

    GPL is MUCH less interesting. By default, you have NO right to distribute software. The GPL is a distribution license.

    This Slashdot mental masturbation is childish. The odds of the GPL being overturned and everyone's software under license being made public domain is pretty close to 0%. It is only a concern on Slashdot.

    The GPL hasn't been to court because every violator has reached a settlement.

    This case sounds like NuSphere is fucked. The portion in question suggests that if you violate the terms of the license the license is voided. This is pretty standard stuff.

    Here is the question that the court will answer.

    If I break the GPL, I can be sued for damages, etc., and must stop distribution. My license is revoked, etc., etc. Can I then go out, download a fresh copy and distribute under the terms of the GPL? Stallman says no, I'm not certain. That's where this case is questionable.

    However, this is a good test case for the GPL. The question of derivative work is interesting. I'm not certain that the linking scenario creates a derivative work. However, since this company distributed a modified MySQL with their additions, they are CLEARLY distributing the work.

    They need to establish that they have a separate license or did so under the GPL.

    Regardless, the GPL being invalidated would not make things Public Domain. Without license you cannot distribute, so if the license falls, no distribution under GPL v2. FSF releases GPL v2.1 within a week and any provision that includes (or later version) is fine, everyone else needs to update.

    Alex

    1. Re:GPL is UNRELATED to EULAs by brad3378 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      &gt If you need to clikc Agree to use the software, have you enterred into a contract? That's an INTERESTING legal question.

      Great Point!
      I'm not a lawyer, so I have to ask:
      What does this mean to american children?
      As I understand it, Americans under age 18 cannot be bound to contracts.

      Therefore, if EULAs are contracts, and you are a pre-teen American, Should you be allowed to install software? Do you need to obey the EULA?

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