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Linux Web Browsers Compared

Rob Valliere writes: "The best Linux Web browsers have dramatically improved in the past few months: they are all stable, standards compliant and loaded with solid feature enhancements and additions. Using Red Hat 7.2 and the KDE desktop, the premier Linux browsers are Galeon 1.0.3, Mozilla 0.9.8 and Opera 6.0 TP3. The best Web downloads and installs were from Opera and Mozilla, which have minimal dependencies. Galeon is a small download but can be difficult to upgrade due to its Mozilla and GNOME dependencies."

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  1. Re:What about Konqueror by nick255 · · Score: 5, Informative

    And the version in KDE 3 betas is even better. It's the only Linux browser I know of which displays the ticker at the top of the BBC News website correctly. The others don't even try.

  2. Just displaying right is a big plus. by nesneros · · Score: 3, Informative

    Having been (in the last year) through Konqueror, Galleon, Netscape (4.whatever), and Mozilla on a Mandrake box, I've found that Mozilla's the only one that consistantly displays pages correctly. The other 3 I found would often screw up font sizes and leave side bars unreadable.

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  3. I'll go with Opera by Uttles · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm using it on both a Windoze and Linux platform and I have to say that it is extremely fast, just like the slogan says. The program just feels lightweight the way it pops right up and "loads" all your pages instantly (ok so they're not always refreshed, but hey). Anyway, be sure to install the java lib with it under windows or you may have some problems there (at least I do sometimes) but under linux it doesn't seem to matter.

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  4. Konqueror is not a MUA/newsreader/HTML editor! by tomRakewell · · Score: 4, Informative

    Since Mozilla 0.9.8 seems to keep crashing (0.9.6 seemed to me to be the peak of stability for the browser), I've been using Konqueror a lot more.

    It does make me miss good Mozilla things, like tabbed browsing. I've also run into a number of pages that Konqueror does not handle all that well, but I'm not sure if its due to standards violations in those pages or in Konqueror.

    I might be missing it, but I also can't find a way to do a text zoom in Konqueror!

    Konqueror seems to be as fast as Opera at rendering pages (but no in-gui ads!). And, for the paranoid, it handles cookie requests as well as... Lynx!

    And Konqueror doesn't have a ton of dependencies like Galeon or skipstone... (it just depends on the whole of KDE!)

    Best of all, Konqueror is *just* a web browser, which is something all the other browser projects should come to terms with. I am never going to use Mozilla's mail client, their news reader, or their HTML editor. In fact, the inclusion of these items tends to slow me down when I accidentally invoke them.

    Wouldn't these massive browser projects benefit greatly by focusing on only *one thing*, like making a nice, fast, stable, standards-compliant browser? Isn't that hard enough?

    Lately, when I build Mozilla, I choose not to build those components, which speeds up the build process nicely!

    1. Re:Konqueror is not a MUA/newsreader/HTML editor! by fferreres · · Score: 3, Informative

      Ok, i use Galeon, so i will just comment my personal view...

      Since Mozilla 0.9.8 seems to keep crashing

      It's not crashing here (not once), i am using 0.9.7 though (0.9.6 had a bug with javascript and couldn't play yahoo chess :))

      I've also run into a number of pages that Konqueror does not handle all that well...

      That's the single most important problem with Konqueror imho. If i develop with Konqueror i will not know if it looks fine under Windows, so they wouldn't let me use Linux...(at work at least)

      ...but I'm not sure if its due to standards violations in those pages or in Konqueror.

      If things show well on IE, they will not fix the problem. That's a problem. The broser should try it's best to display non conforming HTML as other browers do (not Konquerors fault, but...).

      It does make me miss good Mozilla things, like tabbed browsing.

      Galeon has tabbed browsing before Mozilla (and i find it better than Mozillas built-in). Opera first implemented t.b. though.

      I might be missing it, but I also can't find a way to do a text zoom in Konqueror! Galeon has it...

      Konqueror, for the paranoid, it handles cookie requests as well as... Lynx!

      Cookies management in Galeon is the best i've seen so far. It really has and advanced and flexible cookies database.

      Best of all, Konqueror is *just* a web browser

      Same here :)

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  5. png/alpha full support by Dante'sPrayer · · Score: 4, Informative

    I found the hability of displaying images with a transparent background and smooth borders a big plus. Right now, the only browsers I know of fully supporting the alpha channel on .png images are Mozilla and Opera 6; Konqueror trims the borders of the image. I don't know if Galeon support png/alpha channel, but given that it uses the Mozilla renderer (Gecko) it maybe does.

    That is the biggest grip that I have about Konqueror; some effects on my home page display somewhat broken.

  6. Internationalization, anyone? by ThinkingGuy · · Score: 5, Informative

    I surf a lot of pages in Japanese. While I've found Netscape sufficient for viewing Japanese (and other double-byte character set) language pages, I've often had trouble getting things like web forms to work (this is on the Linux version).
    One of my biggest disappointments with Opera (which I last tried out about a year ago) was its lack of support for far eastern languages. I hear this has been resolved in newer versions.
    BeOS's NetPositive actually worked the best for me as far as displaying and inputting Japanese.

    Anyway, it would be nice if more of these "browser comparison" articles included internationalization (i18n) along with "speed," "standards compliance," "ease of installation", etc. as one of the features tested.

  7. one of my favorites is 'links' (not 'lynx') by keithmoore · · Score: 3, Informative
    it's pure text-based, but it supports tables and a mouse (in xterm, anyway). and it's *fast*.

    no java, javascript, cookies, or any of that crap. so it's not good for everything, but when you just want fast access to stuff that is mostly text, or if you're trying to read a site that is too busy (maybe because it's slashdotted), it's a winner.

    http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mikulas/links/

  8. Re:My question is this - by starseeker · · Score: 4, Informative

    You might take a look at Dillo (http://dillo.sf.net) - it is small, fast, doesn't depend on mozilla, and generally makes a good fast browser. It is under development, but even so for what you describe it should work fine.

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  9. Konquerer should get a lot better soon by pointwood · · Score: 5, Informative

    As can be read in the KDE3 beta2 announcement, Konqueror in KDE3 should be a lot better than the KDE2 version. Here is the quote:

    "One of the major improvements brought by KDE 3.0 over KDE 2.2 is the Javascript/DHTML support in Konqueror," stated David Faure, a Konqueror and KOffice developer. "The DOM 2 model, used to render an HTML page, is now mostly implemented, and changes to the DOM tree are handled much better. The Javascript bindings and support is almost complete, faster and more stable than in KDE 2. These changes result in a much-improved rendering of dynamic websites and is something users will immediately appreciate."

    IIRC, the tabbed browsing feature is planned for KDE 3.1.

  10. Re:Konqueror failure - how does Redhat package it? by bero-rh · · Score: 3, Informative

    Does Redhat not package the KDE environment in pieces? If not - why not?

    We do. kdelibs+kdebase is enough to run Konqueror.
    We aren't splitting things up even more (like, maybe, splitting kcontrol off kdebase) mostly to keep a "ls *.rpm" tree you can bear to look at, and also to save translation cost for package descriptions.

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  11. Give credit where it's due ! by kigrwik · · Score: 4, Informative

    Konqueror is *not* a web browser.

    kHTML is.

    Konqueror is a mostly empty shell that wraps around components that use the KPart architecture to display context-dependent widgets/menuitems, or kio_slaves that provide a filesystem-like display of stuffs.
    Konqueror technically has the ability of embedding mozilla through the kMozilla component.

    But then, you can also view DivX, PS, PDF (through KParts), browse an audio CD (and rip in .ogg or .wav with a simple drag n' drop (including freedb.org querying)), your POP3 account (possibly still in development) in Konqueror, and lots of other things (through KIO).

    Actually, Konqueror is what looks most like the good old Unix philosophy of small tools:
    "cat slashdot.org | kHTML | Konqueror"

    Besides, with anti-aliased fonts, it's truly gorgeous !

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  12. Then you are voting for Mozilla by Pac · · Score: 3, Informative

    I understand Mozilla has had this feature for a long time. It is not a menu/GUI driven option, though.

    You can edit the file user.js using the instructions in Custumizing Mozilla

    Not exactly user friendly, but fairly easy anyway.

  13. Re:Opera needs a full-featured set for Linux by gosand · · Score: 3, Informative
    OK, looks like I need to make sure I have the latest version of Opera for Linux.

    Another thing I like about the mouse gestures in combination with tabbed windows is being able to open a link in another window in the background. (right click on link, move mouse down, up, release button). For reading /., this is great, as I can open up the stories I want to read in their own windows as I am browsing, then go back and read them.

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