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Phil Long and Open Courseware

WebWord Usability writes: "The Technology Source is running an interview with Phil Long. It is mainly about open source software and open courseware development at MIT (e.g., Open Knowledge Initiative). If you're interested in this stuff, CREN will be streaming a discussion with Vijay Kumar and Phil Long on Thursday 7-March-2002 at 4PM EST. Still want to know more? Syllabus Magazine ran an article on OpenCourseWare in January 2002."

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  1. Great!! by mochan_s · · Score: 4, Interesting
    This really great. In the last few years, a lot of course materials have been put online by professors (and not made you have to log in with you university account to access it, unlike some mean universities!!!)

    MIT already has a course materials on the WWW page where they have links to the web-pages created by professors for their classes. And, a lot of them aren't just a class syllabus and problems numbers from the book, but exams, solutions, HW solutions and sometimes even class notes. It's neat browsing through those.

    I guess this is just an extension of the idea so that all web-interface is the same for all classes. I just hope it doesn't end like other university web-site where 90% of the web-pages generated for classes are 90% the same and just contains the syllabus. Very frustrating browsing through 100 class links and they're all the same.

    1. Re:Great!! by neuroticia · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I agree, it's great that schools are putting courses online and offering them for free to the public.

      However, let's not lose sight that Education is a business and not a right. The universities that do not put their materials online have their reasons to not put their materials online. They believe that they're giving away something that others are paying for, etc. (Along with the fact that it is rather time consuming to put things online most times.)

      That said, as someone who often takes exams and reads assignments online, I love the concept of Opencourseware and wish more Universities and schools would consider following the path. Perhaps if they were educated about the implications of opencourseware-- that it wouldn't take students away from the school as they would still want to attend for other reasons (diploma, social life, interaction with their peers and professors, etc.) then more schools would consider it. They could make use of volunteers to enter the information into a database, lobby for tax cuts for "donating" knowledge to the public, and so on.

      -Sara

  2. Knowledge can be a prodct by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I picked up this part of the relative article: Colleges and universities, in his view, are becoming more and more like vendors to students, who perceive themselves as customers of college education services Quite frankly, that doesn't sound bad to me. Let me try to give you a reason: Say that your parents (or even you) worked to death in order to give you what was necessary in order to attend the offered courses. So why should the same time any other creep that his parents (or him) just "wanked" should be able to enjoy the same cources? And you know something, if me or my parents pay for my education, I appreciate that and I respect it too. And if the decisions you took in your life (or others took for you) really mean nothing, then ,please, don't let that be a problem for me, ok? And as long as we use to buy products a bit, nowadays, let that be a product too. Knowledge should be perceived as a product, offered to those intended to pay for it.

  3. Re:Obligatory Copy Of The Article (mivu.org?) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    the Site's slashdoted already. So this shouldnt be a zero that noone can read.

  4. The "Open" university by jsmyth · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I teach a final year Software Systems development course for one of the largest universities in the world, and the majority of the courseware we use is available online. The university is The Open University, the course is M301: Software Systems and their Development.

    The course includes a number of aspects of development, including ethics (links from the main student website to other ethical institutions), project management, java, UML, and concurrency. Most of the materials are on that site, except of course for the two set books - a java book and a concurrency book.

    The open philosophy of the Open University predates that of MIT, although has a lot in common with academia in general - that of a meritocracy where knowledge is shared, and the importance is placed on what you do with it and how you do it, rather than where you come from or what you look like.

    I find the MIT angle to be very interesting, because they say they are not giving the "experience" or "education" away. This is true, and probably the only thing the OU lacks is regular face to face tuition. Having said that, I gave a tutorial just yesterday, and met my students for the first time this year, and we are in regular communication via email and webchat, so we are not losing that much!

    I am very interested in seeing how MIT perform in terms of materials - because we in the OU don't have a large face-to-face component, the materials have to read very well, and I feel they do (check it out).

    --
    jer

    We may be human, but we're still animals
    - Steve Vai
  5. Re:Project Athena Rev. 2 by neuroticia · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "giving away the latter doesn't devalue the former"-- So true. Course materials are a small part of the experience of going to a good school. If anything, experiencing the course materials would only increase my desire to go to the school and interact with the professors teaching the courses. (This is assuming that the course material is appealing. If it's not, then it would weed out the people who were disinterested and likely to be poor performers in the first place.)

    It's like being allowed to use the world's fastest computer. You might be recieving most of the benefits of owning it-- but you still want to own it. You still want to be able to overclock it or modify the case... Or even set up the OS the way you like it.

    -Sara