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More Mayhem From MSFT's Mundie

Cally writes "Further embarrasingly lame FUD from Craig Mundie of Microsoft. This time, he claims the GPL is at odds with 'commercialization' of software, without which the government gets a smaller tax take. Looks like he's really talking to legislators there ... He also knocks the Sun-led Liberty Alliance Passport SSO service as 'this notion that the world should be offered an alternative.' An alternative?"

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  1. GPL by zephc · · Score: 2, Funny

    you use the GPL, you support free software, and thats another commercial product you didn't buy from a compny who's taxes would go to the government and that means less money to fight the axis of evil. dont you see? you're letting the terrorists win!

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  2. Choice!? by mdemeny · · Score: 5, Funny
    Microsoft's chief technology officer also took the time to criticize Web services advocates and the Liberty Alliance.

    "Rather than form a federation with Microsoft and work with what we had already created, there was this notion that the world should be offered an alternative," Mundie said.

    Ohmygod! Choice! We can't have that now, can we? If users have a choice, we couldn't engage in anti-compet- ^H^H^H^H^H...

    I mean standards! That's the ticket... standards... yeah...

  3. One thing Craig said is true by lowy · · Score: 2, Funny

    "What we have done with PCs so far is not natural"
    Couldn't agree with you more, Craig.

  4. Mundie's nightmare scenario... by brlewis · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...Microsoft having to write software themselves because the code they would otherwise steal is GPLed.

  5. Re:Huh? How can a capitalist say .. by NumberSyx · · Score: 3, Funny

    What kind of twisted capitalism is Mundie cheerleading here?!

    The kind where Microsoft is the only game in town. Perhaps we need a new word or phrase to describe it. Much like we say Marxist Communism as opposed to Soviet Communism, we have Microsoft Capitalism as opposed to Competitive Capitalism.

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  6. In other news by Rupert · · Score: 3, Funny

    What we have done with PCs so far is not natural

    Microsoft exec admits to unnatural act with computer. Police hold goatse guy for questioning.

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  7. Eureka by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Suddenly it all make sense... This article made me understand why Microsoft products are that expencive. Microsoft do not overprice their software to increase their own profit. They do it so the government get more money from taxes to run universities, and all the other things that governments do.

  8. Re:An Alternative? Oh geeze by coltrane99 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Oh, then your post is completely offtopic. Sorry for the confusion!

  9. Re:Money - $$$$ by WhiteKnight07 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Although we can't "prove" it persay, this is our best guess.

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  10. Wrong... by sterno · · Score: 3, Funny

    No, the government dosen't get that money because the companies hide the money they save in shady offshore partnerships. On the other hand we all know that Microsoft is a trustworthy and upstanding corporate citizen who pays all the taxes they are supposed to. Kudos to Mundie for his valid point.

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  11. Free Lunch bad for Nutrition by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    In a recent speech at the World Technology Foods conference (WTF) Mr. Crave Munchie (a senior vice president at Megolithic Supermarkets) had this to say:

    "By providing food free to anyone who asks, the so called 'Good Samaritans' are destroying the food market. The biggest danger is that posed by the Give People Lunch program. The GPL is just the worst. Under the terms of the GPL, people are asked to help other's in need. Where does it end? Imagine if the spirit of cooperation spread everywhere? How would you like to live in a society where all your basic needs where given away for free? How could anybody make money?

    First restaurants would go out of business, then fast food chains and finally supermarkets. Most of these businesses are owned by politically correct minorities. Pushing them out of business is UN-American. What's wrong with these people, do they think food grows on trees? If the food service industry went out of business, healthy nutritious food like Twinkies Ho-Ho's and Ding Dongs would be gone."

  12. It's not natural by TheConfusedOne · · Score: 2, Funny

    Still my favorite Mundi'ism from this speech:

    "What we have done with PCs so far is not natural."

    It makes you pause and think about what he does with the ol' keyboard and mouse in the privacy of his own office.

    I also find the complaint about a group offering an alternative being a bad thing. Oh well, I guess that's why he gets paid the big bucks.

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  13. An even better solution by Bj�rn · · Score: 2, Funny
    "The problem with general public license advocates is that they don't understand that people need the opportunity to commercialize software,"

    Absolutely right. It's not fair that everyone has free access to air, water, sunshine and all sorts of other stuff. Think about all the money that the government is losing in potential tax dollars. I propose that we give Microsoft a monopoly on all these things so the governments gets more tax money to run universities, and all the other things that governments do. :)

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  14. Craig Mundie: The Case Against Cloning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    This man is obviously the cloned son of Jack Valenti. Even when the technical bugs are handled and human cloning is perfectly safe and there is no real danger of side effects - there is still the problem of really obnoxious source material. Down with reproductive cloning!
    This is just like the somewhat subtler argument that Valenti used in explaining why copyright pirates are really stealling tax money from the government. Every one of those 350 thousand illegally downloaded movies represents about 3 bucks in taxes that the government is being cheated out of. (Assume that each download is a ten dollar movie ticket / concession sale and a thirty per cent tax rate) That is over a million tax dollars per day - and of course when broadband really arrives figure that those numbers will increase by at least a factor of ten.

    Of course, Mundie doesn't have nearly as good an argument as his sire. The moviegoing public is paying for their tickets with after tax dollars, whereas businesses buy software with pretax dollars (as others have pointed out). But politicians don't care of it makes sense. it just has to sound faintly plausible so they can vote for it.

  15. Re:He does have a point... by flacco · · Score: 3, Funny
    Raise your hand in you develop software for a living. Now, keep your hand raised if your company never suggests that competing software products are not as good as yours.

    Now, keep your hand raised if your company has enough money to buy every congressman on capitol hill, make them put on a sun-dress, lipstick and high heels, and pass out cocktails on a silver tray at your pool parties.

    At this point there is only one evil, corpulent hand raised, and we all know whose that is.

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  16. I have to agree with him on one point by kel-tor · · Score: 2, Funny

    "What we have done with PCs so far is not natural..." --Craig Mundie

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  17. Mundie vs. Bin Laden by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Mundie almost reminds me of Osama bin Laden, preaching complete bullshit to his little "choir".
    It's a shame the US Government doesn't treat Microsoft like they did the Taliban. ;-)

  18. Re:Alternatives by Grishnakh · · Score: 3, Funny

    And in the end, folks, Britian and the US made peace and became allies.

    Well hopefully, that won't happen in this version. Instead (to continue the metaphor), after some competition with the US, Britain's economy collapses. Their citizens try to leave for the US and mainland Europe, but everyone remembers how badly they were treated by the British at the height of their power, they refuse to allow them entry. A few British do manage to get out, but end up in slavery or employed in very demeaning jobs. Then, as the British people are starving and wallowing in misery, remembering how they screwed everyone over and realize they're paying the price now, a massive earthquake rocks the island, and it sinks beneath the sea.