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Kudos to the guys behind Pioneer 10! Soft writes: "As a follow-up to yesterday's story, Pioneer 10 was successfully contacted for its 30th birthday, as announced in sci.space.news. The commands that were sent yesterday have been executed by the spacecraft, and more data has been collected by the Geiger Tube Telescope." lostchicken adds a link to Associated Press wire story on Yahoo!', writing "Not bad for a 30 year-old spacecraft. Perhaps those making time capsules could learn something from this?" Several readers also pointed out the SpaceDaily version of the goings on.
What, in the middle of Canadian winter?! schon writes: "An update to this /. story - The Canadian Copyright Board has announced the details of the public hearings on Canadian Digital Copyrights, at http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/SSG/rp00838e.html. Interested parties should register before attending (details available on the page.)"
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Death of a legend? Jean-Luc writes "The New York Review of Books has published an article that contains an e-mail from Bill Gates denying he ever said the infamous "640K should be enough for anyone" quote. He foists the blame on IBM and claims he tried to convince them to include more address space from the get go. Very technical and fairly convincing, showing that for all his might Bill is still basically a geek's geek."
They hadn't even gotten to the bowlderizing chip yet ... Dan Gilmor pointed out Intel's strong statement Thursday on copy protection front, "much stronger than the letter sent yesterday. Surprising given their history..." Maybe Intel believes they can do a better job of what deciding what goes into Silicon than a committee of bureaucrats steered by the entertainment moguls can.
"Ten years from now, they could do it in a few seconds." -- The Racketeer of the Hellfire Club, 1993, Phrack 42
Not only that, but I'm not sure about how his explanation makes him a "geek's geek". He was reciting common knowledge about address space. Also, in no way does his 640K statement have anything to do with his knowledge of addresses.
I still stick with my assessment that Bill Gates is a business man, not a geek. He knows about computers, but I wouldn't trust him to code his way out of a wet paper bag.
Dacels Jewelers can't be trusted.
Rice has consented to the entry of an order that would enjoin him from future violations of the foregoing provisions
Could someone explain...it appears that Rice has agreed not to break the laws he already broke?! Damn... "I promise not to rape, pillage and plunder any more!"
It looks like a panty-waist settlement. Does anyone know the punitive damages etc the FTC is asking for? This looks like a PR move, but no real action.
Cheers
I've yet to see substantial backing as to his "great coder" skills. Paul Allen, yes I'd agree with. He started Microsoft with his parents money. He was sent to college on his parents dime (and IIRC, was not doing all that well academic wise).
Dacels Jewelers can't be trusted.
Oh, how very geek -- a my-computer-was-shittier-than-thine post.
Well, I'll bite. My first computer had a monochrome display, 40 character columns and 8k memory. We upgraded it with a hard drive for close to $3000; the hard drive was 4 meg.
That machine is less than a tenth of the power of my cellular phone. I emulate it on my Pocket PC while playing A Flock of Seagulls MP3s in the background. Ahh memories...
Seriously though, 640k WAS enough for most programs when they knew how to manage the top ram. They just had to treat it the same way we deal with swap files today -- stick memory up there if you don't want to get rid of it but don't actively need it. There are plenty of devices, programs and utilities that run with command stacks under 128k (the size of the biggest x86 command cache i'm aware of) that swap miscellaneous data (ie pictures, sounds, even text) out of the larger ram. The problem was that sloppy compilers (MS is not the only one to blame; if I remember Borland was the biggest player in the compilation game back when 640k was 'nuff) DIDN'T do the swapping for you.
Windows has spoiled us all by doing such things under the scenes -- to the point that code optimizers are hot commodities that are prized for their savant abilities. In short: the same practices that create the code bloat we all cringe at were responsible for the streamlining of some very sticky swap processes. Resource files, i hate you and I could kiss you.
Hey freaks: now you're ju
We, the people, need a charismatic, high-profile champion with no stake other than the public interest. Who will take up the mantle?
Yes, Dan Gillmor is absolutely right, we need a champion for individual rights. Someone who can make a case for the public domain that doesn't devolve into an argument about which company can make more money.
Intel isn't going to do it, because Intel is interested only in Intel's profits.
Someone needs to say things like:
- Copyright is not an absolute right, it is a compromise. There can be, and there is such a thing as "too much copyright"
- There is such a thing as public domain.
- All inventions and writings should end up in the public domain, because that's where they came from.
- Dead people's works don't need copyright protection.
- Individuals copy because they want to. A government interested in "freedom" should find a way to ensure people can do what they want. A corporation interested in "capitalism" should find a way to profit from the things people want to do.
- America is about Opportunity, not Guarantee (I believe Lincoln said words to that effect). If your business model doesn't work, find another one.
and so forth. Normally, the Government is supposed to represent the People. Unfortunately, the Government has been priced out of reach of the People.We have a moratorium on internet taxes.. why didn't we have a moratorium on internet copyrights until things got sorted out?
So indeed, who will pick up the mantle?
The only person I know of who makes a moral argument for this is RMS, but unfortunately he doesn't quite fit the description "charismatic"....
While I don't know if BG actually made the 640K quote or not, the history that he provides (i.e., we really wanted to do things right, but the evil hardware people wouldn't let us) is self-serving and not exactly correct.
The Motorolla 68000 did have a 32-bit design, but it only had 24-bit addressing when it came out, which was the same as Intel was attempting to provide with the 80286.
However, it was impossible to use the address space of the 286 because it required the chip to go into protected mode, and MS-DOS made assumptions that made this impossible. While DOS 1.0 certainly couldn't have predicted this, MS had early access to the 286 specs, but they never made the appropriate changes. Digital Research did, with Concurrent CPM-86, but by that time, the MS-DOS juggernaught had pretty much rolled over everyone else.
Does anyone really believe that he had input on the hardware design of the IBM PC? That's what he's suggesting. I was under the impression that the architecture was already set by the time Microsoft was called. Would IBM really ask DR and MS for an OS for a machine that wasn't even specced out yet?
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I don't think Bill's saying, "I never said that." I think that what he's saying is, "That was taken out of context." Perhaps what Bill G. said was, "640k should be enough for anyone ... for now." Which is pretty much what I always figured had happened.
Disclaimer: I think Microsoft sucks donkey balls, and the sooner they stop being a monopoly, the sooner the world will be a much better place.
You know how the liberals go around saying that if guns were outlawed no one would have guns?
I think the RIAA and MPAA are really liberals in disguise. They think if they can just get a law passed banning certain kinds of hardware then that hardware couldn't possibly exist any more.
A Government Is a Body of People, Usually Notably Ungoverned
Yeah, like you really dodged the bullet and avoided that hack -- NOT! Bank switching was what LIM EMS memory (LIM standing for Lotus, Intel, and Microsoft) was all about. Because you never ported MSDOS to the 80286 or 80386, we developers had to resort to hacks like EMS to fit our bloated code (ok, that part is my fault) into the address space.
If Microsoft had kept up with the hardware technology, maybe I wouldn't have torn out so much hair in the 80s, and maybe I wouldn't hate them as much today....
... nah, I'd still hate 'em, because once better OSes started to show up for the 386 (e.g. OS/2 version 2) and people finally started saying adios to DOS, Microsoft couldn't stand the thought of it, so they started pushing Windows down everyone's throats, using dirty techniques such as preloads, per processor licensing, etc.
It's the same pattern that MS used with the Internet and the same that we'll see again with whatever comes next. Microsoft has always been about denying technology, and then when everyone gets fed up with their backwoods Amish luddite mentality and start to leave them, MS does something underhanded (usually involving a monopoly leverage) to lock people in again... only to let their followers/victims rot again while visionless Microsoft grows fat and complacent. Over'n'over because sheep are too stupid to learn. But some of us remember.
Damn, where did that pointless rant come from? Oh yeah, Gates quote reminded me of when I saw them kill the personal computer revolution. Funny how that always gets my dander up.
As copyright owner of this comment, I authorize everyone to defeat any technological measure which limits access to it.
That might make good logical sense, but physically it's not practical or efficient. The amount of overhead (in silicon) would not be worth the functionality.
Networks are accessed ( and consequently used) differently than memory, due to latency and reliability issues. Logically you could make the internet appear to be a big logical address space, but accessing it in that manner wouldn't provide much value.
Grabbing data in chunks or streaming data are better suited to networks than using memory addressing. If network access times came down to the sub 1 ms range, some memory mapped applications might become more feasible.
Why some backwater state in the USA would need their own special laws on this is totally beyond me...
People seem to think that if Canada were to join the United States that it would be a single state. Because of geo-socio-economic, I think that it would need to be at least six states (Atlantic (North Maine), Quebec (North Louisana), Ontario (North New York w/New New York North City), Prarie (North North Dakota), BC (North Washington, not D.C.), and Territories (Great White North North North Dakota). Some might argue that Alberta should be North Texas.
Anyway, if Canada were a single state, it would be very close in population to California and would weald way too much political power for the comfort of the rest of the Union.
What is important to note here is that the department feels that anti-circumvention may already be covered by copyright law and that restricting devices to circumvent protection is too broad. If you read the original paper (http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/SSG/rp01099e.html) the tone is very much in favour of making these laws so that they strike a balance between the public and rights holders (i.e., those who provide content).
Of course, this is not the final law and there is much to be addressed. However, the outlook, in my opinion, is good. There is no way the reform, as discussed on the department's site (so far) is indicative of DMCA-ish measures. People should keep this in mind before shooting their mouths off about Canadian copyright reform (of course, this is
This does not mean, however, that those interested in truely keeping the balance of copyright in a sane manner can just be apathetic. My comments are registered on the department's site and I'm probably going to one of the meetings (either in Toronto or Ottawa).
Woz
Your arguments are all good. (Although on your digital devices point, I like to characterize this as mandating breathalyzers on all wheeled vehicles, like wheelbarrels and matchbox cars, because of a few drunk drivers.)
But my friend in the know suggests that Hollings is really concerned about the health of the media industry. Right or wrong, you need to address that concern. I think you need to say something like "stealing music is already illegal. The existing laws have put Napster out of business."
You could also offer the opinion that the music industry is free to offer their own music-delivery platform, with all the security they want.
OK, that's not quite a legitimate question. Bill is and always has been a geek on his good days. (and a nerd on his bad days, and a sleazball on the other 90% of the days)
However, his version of events doesn't correspond with anyone else's, or with recorded history. In other words, Bill Gates is a liar.
Now let's quit quoting him and saying, "oh hey--we were wrong all these decades."
"People who do stupid things with hazardous materials often die." -- Jim Davidson on alt.folklore.urban
Most of the previous comments are spot-on, so I'll only suggest one addition (which would likely make the document too long, so feel free to ignore it):
Just my two cents...
Schwab
Editor, A1-AAA AmeriCaptions
Nice to see that the slashdot moderation is alive and well at this moment - an intelligent comment is flamebait ?
what didnt the user abuse bill gates enough for you, or suport open source, or sing the praises of linux.
Good to see that comment and intelligence is alive and well on slashdot.
My only suggestion is this. You lay out the issues very well and then at then end get into what looks like a personal attack (I'm sure you don't mean it to be). Here's the changes I'd make FWIW
I am not sure exactly how you think you are benefiting South Carolina with this bill is very confrontational and slightly insulting - it implies he doesn't know what he's doing. How about I do not believe this bill will benefit South Carolina?
Please don't act solely in the interest of your high-dollar contributors. This is even worse - you're implying that he's been improperly influenced by contibutions from business. That's a serious allegation, insulting to his integrity. Mention instead the other side of the coin, following on from your previous sentence i.e. My reading of the proposal is that it will only benefit the large corporations in this country, especially the media conglomerates. Please make sure that you are also acting on behalf of non-corporate interests, the individual constituents who voted for you.
The last sentence can stand if you tone down the other two because you modify the you are doing a disservice with by proposing this bill. Otherwise I might have suggested this bill will do a disservice
The thing to remember is that you are trying to influence this guy's opinion not run against him in the next election. You may believe that he's an idiot who doesn't understand the issue and is in the pockets of big business - but if your letter comes over that way any chance of persuading him will probably be lost.
He falls short of saying he invented Moore's law here, but by not crediting Moore it makes his later Intel bashing sound more plausible.
perl -e 'fork||print for split//,"hahahaha"'
People have an urge to share. We sing songs, we retell stories. When we see a good movie, or hear an incredibly good song, we go to our friends and try to share the experience with them. Sharing information is a part of human nature, and the purpose of the hundreds of languages that mankind has created over the ages.
The founding fathers of the United States recognized the human need for the sharing of information when they penned the First Ammendment. They said that the right to share information should not be infringed. They did, however, create one, small exception. They allowed congress to give creators of the arts and sciences a short term monopoly over their created works, in the hopes that.
The apparent intent of that constitutional paragraph was that, after a short period of time the works created as a result of that copyright protection would fall into the public domain, where the people could make full and wholesome use of it.
Current copyright law is, however, an abomination of the original intent of the copyright exception. Instead of giving the creating artist control of his or her work for a short period of time, this control is being treated like permanent property. The original 14 year copyright period has now been extended to about 10 times that number -- and hat number is stretching faster than time itself.
Lost knowledgeElectronic information is fragile and ephemeral. A doomsday laser disk created only 15 years ago is now far less readable than it's 16'th century counterpart. The technology used to create it is now obsolete and almost forgotten.
Technical audio tapes of the apollo moon landing were almost unreadable when researchers rescued them from archives only 30 years after Neil armstrong uttered his famous words "One small step for (a) man, one giant leap for mankind".
When Mandella was sentanced in 1961, the speech of the future president of South Africa was recorded on (then) hi-tech plastic strips. Less 40 years later it took researchers years to recreate the technology needed to extract sound from those strips.
And when was the last time you tried to play an 8-track tape?
If history is any predictor of the future, the recordings of today are going to be opaque to the next generation. If the Media industry has their way, todays recordings will be taboo to future generations.
As NASA archivists have found out, the only way to keep yesterday's electronic information available is to transfer it to storage formats available today. The proposed terms of the SSSCA would, however, make such transferr illegal -- especially if the person or company who created the original work was dead, defunct, or simply un-locatable.
Our grandchildren would then be left with the unenviable choice of being forever unable to view what we creating today -- or becoming criminals by attempting to read such mundane things as videos of their parents' first steps.
By the year 2100, todays digital recordings will be far less readable than the scratchy vinyl recordings of the 1940s, but people may be unwilling to decoding them -- fearful of the legal implications of having the technology necessary to decode something recorded today.
If the sssca is allowed to pass, it will, in all liklihood, create a digital black hole in the history of the arts and sciences of the world.
Sometimes boldness is in fashion. Sometimes only the brave will be bold.
Three comments:
1. Implement the suggestions of those who have posted before me. Their comments are insightful, and greatly strengthen your letter.
2. (style) In the "Open Source Software" paragraph, it should read, "Software engineers like me," not "like myself."
3. (substance) The example of GPS as a digital device without a protection scheme is not a good one. GPS, developed by the military, has plenty of encryption, both in the physical layer and above. I haven't read the bill, and so don't know what its definition of "digital device" is, but perhaps a better example would be a digital watch or clock. This paragraph could perhaps be strengthened by opening with a quote of the bill's definition of "digital device" (assuming it has one), then pointing out that, as you suggest, unintended devices may be affected.
An excellent first draft, BTW.