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Tech Legislation: The Digital Dirty Dozen

Posted by timothy on from the you're-free-to-choose-a-grain-of-salt dept.

vwalke writes: "The libertarian think tank, Cato Institute, recently released a summary of the worst Tech Legislative Measures of the 107th congress. A few of the bills receiving honors: another breakup of the telecommunications system (S. 1364), regulation on electronic advertising and marketing activities (S.792 and H.R. 2246), authorization of a multi-state Internet tax cartel (S.512 and H.R. 1410), regulation of unsolicited e-mail (H.R. 718), requiring non-discriminatory licensing of online content like movies and music while also mandating copy protection schemes (H.R. 2724), prohibition of online gambling (H.R. 556 and H.R. 3215), and creation of a broadband tax credit (S. 88 and H.R. 267). A very detailed, informative analysis. Keep in mind it's coming with a libertarian slant."

28 comments

  1. To the rescue! by itwerx · · Score: 0

    Cato Kaelin to the rescue!

    (My most profound apologies for such a horrible pun, the coffee made me do it).

    1. Re:To the rescue! by dadaist · · Score: -1

      Any pun is too good for those Libertarian bastards. I hate Libertarians.

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  2. i hate libertarians by dadaist · · Score: -1

    smug, arrogant, ayn rand loving bastards.

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  3. A tad overreaching by PurpleBob · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Regulating spam is one of the "dirty dozen" of tech legislation? Spam is an obvious undesired drain on the Internet, which is usually based on trespass and fraud (abusing open relays and forging headers). Spam is not protected speech.

    Granted, the measures to attempt to control spam that the government has passed have been watered-down, useless pieces of tripe, like the law saying that every spam must provide a "remove" address. How helpful. But I'd hardly consider these bills the most "destructive pieces of technology legislation". Save that for the DMCA.

    This article is what has made me certain that I am not a Libertarian.

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    1. Re:A tad overreaching by dadaist · · Score: -1

      you shouldn't expect Libertarians to make sense. Take a look at who sponsors the Cato Institute: big businesses that probably use spam every day. Astro-turfing. I hate Libertarians.

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    2. Re:A tad overreaching by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes comrade, hate is -good-. Hate hate hate. TheEvilAntiBK425

  4. Why libertarians suck. by dadaist · · Score: -1

    http://world.std.com/~mhuben/libindex.html

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  5. A good description of the Cato Institute by dadaist · · Score: -1
    from this website:http://world.std.com/~mhuben/cato.html

    A "libertarian" quasi-academic think-tank which acts as a mouthpiece for the globalism, corporatism, and neoliberalism of its corporate and conservative funders. Cato is an astroturf organization: there is no significant participation by the tiny libertarian minority. They do not fund it or affect its goals. It is a creature of corporations and foundations.

    The major purpose of the Cato Institute is to provide propaganda and soundbites for conservative and libertarian politicians and journalists that is conveniently free of reference to funders such as tobacco, fossil fuel, investment, media, medical, and other regulated industries.

    Cato is one of the most blatant examples of "simulated rationality", as described in Phil Agre's The Crisis of Public Reason. Arguments need only be plausibly rational to an uninformed listener. Only a tiny percentage will notice that they are being mislead. That's all that's needed to manage public opinion.

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  6. Why Ayn Rand can suck it. by dadaist · · Score: -1

    http://atheism.about.com/cs/critiquesofobjec/

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  7. Why Objectivism Sucks, Part II by dadaist · · Score: -1

    the face of evil

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  8. just one word. by dadaist · · Score: -1

    ugly.

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  9. He speaks sooth. by dadaist · · Score: -1

    an everyday politician speaks

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  10. you're-free-to-choose-a-grain-of-salt dept. EH! by DrSkwid · · Score: 4, Funny

    Keep in mind it's coming with a libertarian slant.

    Oh yes, thanks for the warning.

    Funny how NY Times stories don't get tagged :
    "watch out, they are ardent free market capitalists"

    or the diet of ZDnet and CNet stories don;t get tagged or any of the others.

    You may as well put "here's a work of fiction from a bunch of liars and fraudsters"

    jeesh!

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  11. Wot no SSSCA? by cabalamat2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I see no mention of the SSSCA or DMCA.

    The Cato institute supposedly favours "liberty" - their slogan is "25 years of advancing liberty". But that apparently doesn't include the liberty to help blind people read electronic books. Nor does it include the liberty to use Linux.

    1. Re:Wot no SSSCA? by cabalamat2 · · Score: 2

      Actually, the SSSCA is listed. I got it wrong.

      *blush*

    2. Re:Wot no SSSCA? by dadaist · · Score: -1

      The Cato institute is funded by mega corporations who hate regulation -- except when it benefits them. They have no ideological purity. Fuck them.

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  12. Cato SUCKS by PD · · Score: 2

    They don't seem to understand that legal spam is the same thing as

    1) legally allowing anyone to let their dogs shit anywhere, anytime
    2) revoking all trespassing laws
    3) allowing anybody to put anything into a mailbox. What if I decided that all my neighbors needed to have a pound of rotten chicken in their mailbox?

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    1. Re:Cato SUCKS by dadaist · · Score: -1
      Hey, for once I really agree with you.

      I hate libertarians.

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    2. Re:Cato SUCKS by Pii · · Score: 2
      Cato does not suck. They simply don't advocate Public Solutions to Private Problems.

      How is it the responsibility of the Federal Government to keep you spam free?

      Spammers have a right to say whatever they want... They do not have the right to ensure that you listen. To that end:

      Install Postfix, subscribe to a RBL, and get on with your life.

      The last thing we need these days are more regulations.

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    3. Re:Cato SUCKS by Deagol · · Score: 2
      Install Postfix, subscribe to a RBL, and get on with your life.

      I'm sure I won't be the first to point out that this is a reactive measure, one that helps once most of the resources of processing mail have been used up.

      Just look at the past spam articles on slashdot. Some ISPs are reporting a very non-trivial amount of their email traffic is spam. Should I be forced to add another T1 or another box to my ISP setup because 30% of my mail traffic is spam? I think not.

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    4. Re:Cato SUCKS by PD · · Score: 2

      How is it the responsibility of the Federal Government to keep you spam free?

      Same way that my fax machine is spam free. And if someone sends me spam as a fax, I can carry out my bloodthirsty vicious vendetta against them in a court of law.

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    5. Re:Cato SUCKS by Pii · · Score: 2
      I'm not saying that the Federal Government hasn't interceded into matters that do not concern them.

      I'm saying that it isn't their place.

      Aside from the propriety of such a course, look at it from a pragmatic standpoint.

      Are you content to move at the speed of Government, or might you be better served by using the readily available tools at your disposal here, and now, to deal with the problem on your own?

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    6. Re:Cato SUCKS by Pii · · Score: 2
      While I admit that a lot of the mail you may be recieving is SPAM, compared to the bandwidth that other services such as HTTP, FTP, or P2P, are using, it's probably not enough to justify another T-1 on it's own.

      Let's be honest... Your enterprise is not AOL, and you don't have 25M+ users.

      I'll concede that legitimate mail traffic, especially when factoring in attachments, can be significant, but that's not what the spammers are sending you.

      They send 2k messages, usually about 30% of which is plain text, and the remainder is HTML formatted, echoing the same thing. If you get 40 such spam messages a day, that's 80k. Let's double it and round up... Call it 200k. Does it even consume the amount of bandwidth to load the Slashdot front page one time, with all of the graphics, etc? Does it even come close to the amount of traffic used in loading a topic page with some 150-200 comments?

      Sure... If you have 2000 users, it adds up, but again, with that many users, you're probably considering adding another T-1 anyway.

      What's the protocol breakdown of the traffic running across your company's pipe(s)?

      (Please don't take this out of context... I hate spam just the same as you do, and it'd be nice if was gone. I just don't think that we should always rely of government to solve our problems. They're already far too caught up in our business as it is. Let's stop inviting them!)

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    7. Re:Cato SUCKS by PD · · Score: 2

      Our wonderful tools cannot keep up at all. Time to make it illegal so that individuals can bring suits against spammers for damages. A law that lets a small claims court judge make a decision without having to think helps greatly.

      That's not moving at the speed of government, it's more like unleasing hordes of disgruntled citizens

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    8. Re:Cato SUCKS by dadaist · · Score: -1
      You really are a moron. How, exactly, does allowing the government to propose a regulation stop you from using your own solutions? Do you actually LIKE spam?

      You are one of those people who hate regulation for no good reason. I've yet to hear you explain why spam is good for anybody. Here's a clue: some regulation is good. Are you happier that your cars are safe? Well, before Nader's Raiders lobbied for the regulations enforcing it, consumers were free to buy crappy unsafe cars. And they didn't find out that they were dangerous until they were DEAD. So much for the free market. SOMETIMES THE FREE MARKET IS TOO SLOW TO SAVE A LIFE. And you talk about "the speed of big government."

      You can spout the empty slogans, but you have no idea what they mean. You're probably a 13 year old poseur, so it isn't worth getting angry, but you really are a boy without a clue. I hope someone beats you up so you realize the benefits of law and order. Corporate bullies should be treated just like the bullies in the schoolyard.

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  13. Re:you're-free-to-choose-a-grain-of-salt dept. EH! by dadaist · · Score: -1
    "You may as well put "here's a work of fiction from a bunch of liars and fraudsters"

    Exactly.

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  14. Re:you're-free-to-choose-a-grain-of-salt dept. EH! by vwalke · · Score: 1

    No. I would say that ANY time you read an article you should consider the source. I happen to agree with most (but not all) of what Cato publishes. That doesn't change the fact that I keep in mind their political and philosophical leanings when I read it.

    And, believe me, I do the same thing when I read the Washington Post and New York Times. ZDNet also gets a big dose of a reality check.

    At least with an organization like Cato, they explicitly state their goals.

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  15. How enlightening... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Wow, you've made such a compelling case... I guess I'll have to change my entire worldview now that I've benefitted from your tremendous wisdom. (Such an impressive posting history... You're a real contributor, oh mighty master of the -1.)

    As for my age, experience, and cluefulness, I'm afraid you've missed the mark, but hey, thanks for playing. We have some lovely parting gifts for you.

    ~Pii

    P.S. Mu indeed.