RazzleDazzle writes: "AMD released a MP Athlon system that has been certified by Daemon News to work with FreeBSD. Read the full article
here."
22 comments
"Certified"... by a news website?
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 1, Interesting
What does it mean to be "certified" by daemonnews.org? Is that supposed to hold any water? Will Slashdot be selling "certified" Linux boxes anytime soon?
Re:"Certified"... by a news website?
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NWT
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· Score: 1
Sure. They test it, and tell you wheter it works or not. It's good to know these facts when you plan to buy a computer to work with a specific os. I mean, ok they're a news site and i don't think that AMD will post this to their site, but it's good to know that it works anyway!
-- Life sucks.
Re:"Certified"... by a news website?
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 0
Well, it is misleading to say it's "FreeBSD Certified." If a mailman runs Linux on his home computer and likes it, that doesn't make it "Endorsed by the U.S. Government." Neither does a news site's approval of the hardware amount to it being "FreeBSD certified".
Re:"Certified"... by a news website?
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 0
Truthfully it means that AMD loaned a computer
to Chris Coleman to play with. He ran seti@home
on it for a couple weeks. Really. That's how
it was certified, I kid you not.
Running seti@home tells you more about Chris Coleman than it does about the computer;^)
Re:"Certified"... by a news website?
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NWT
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· Score: 1
I agree. The story title was indeed misleading. "AMD MP Athlon: Daemonnews certified" would have been a better choice. The article itself is ok, it says "AMD Dual Processor Certified for FreeBSD
" and the certified-logo clearly shows the daemnonews name...
Well anyway, shit happens, and we all make mistakes;)
-- Life sucks.
Re:"Certified"... by a news website?
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jaberwaki
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· Score: 1
When you are an admin trying to convince your boss to not waste his money on a micro$oft license and instead use freebsd or linux the more proof that you can show that it will work the better.
I agree that a website certification shouldn't be given much weight but I've seen managers make decisions based on much less.
Finally FreeBSD works fine with multiprocessor systems, the autor had no problems with his 2 Athlon MPs, that's really great. Finally, you can have a really powerful smp - FreeBSD server system for not too much money! The installation was completed with only one cpu, but a new kernel with the options SMP and APIC_IO enable both cpus.
-- Life sucks.
BSD is a zombie !
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: -1
BSD is undead ! Mwwahahahahahaahahahhaaaaaa !
AMD Does it's bit...
by
gus+goose
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· Score: 3, Funny
... for Seti@Home.
Good to see that 3 months of use and 8 Seti Units a day gives hardware a certificate....;-)
In all fairness, that was a stressful test (CPU Wise), but the report could have been a little more fleshy given a 3 month review period.
I will certify hardware if I can up my SETI Stats at the same time....;-)
yeah, no joke. I was wanting at least one pretty graph. Maybe kernel or world compile times between some machines, then one processor, then two.. I mean, seriously.. what the hell? I honestly think this poor guy had no idea what he had coming. Like.. "wtf? someone actually sent me something?". I guess FreeBSD cert program is good (?), but maybe some sort of criteria in testing the systems would be better.
Slashdot "certified" Linux boxes
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 0
Sounds like "VA-Whatever-It-Happens-To-Be-Today" to me. How well did they do?
*BSD is dying
by
Anonymous Coward
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· Score: -1, Troll
Netcraft has officially confirmed: *BSD is dying
Yet another
crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently
IDC confirmed that *BSD ccounts for less than a fraction of 1
percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft
survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share,
this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD
is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by
failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin
comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin
to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD
faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for
*BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for
*BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market
share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most
endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader
Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users
of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD
posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are
about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about
half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700
users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent
of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400
FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet
posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and
so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by
BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead,
its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major
surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is
very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD
is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD
continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at
this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is dead
*BSD is feeling a little sick.
by
Anonymous Coward
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· Score: -1, Troll
*BSD is under the weather...
Recently, Slashdot [goatse.cx] confirmed that WindRiver bucked FreeBSD out on its ass for a carton of Winstons and a case of Moosehead. This only serves to confirm the fact that FreeBSD is unwanted, doomed to be passed around like an old copy of redhat 7.2.
*BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are quite good. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among scientists and engineers. *BSD continues to improve. Nothing short of a miracle save Linux at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is thriving.
FACT: slashdot subscriptions are overpriced.
So, let me get this straight.
by
watchmaker1
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· Score: 3, Insightful
Daemon News gets AMD to pony up a dual Athlon MP 1500+ system in exchange for "certification" and a review.
Daemon News is a dual headed site, "publishing" a once monthy web based "zine" full of largely irrelevant BSD "stories". They also have the daily section which is a low volume slashdot clone centered on BSD news running an inferior Slash clone based in PHP.
Though, being an OpenBSD user, I check the site regularly for snippets of news not picked up elsewhere, it has always felt like a site some guy runs in his basement. So, I was surprised that AMD would send them hardware.
And how much better off are we for AMD's gift? Are there any shocking revelations? Well, no. FreeBSD works in SMP mode, though the install kernel doesn't recognize the second CPU. Shocking. I've run FreeBSD as an MP3 fileserver/streamer in my basement for months on an old Dual Celeron 366 Abit BP6 I had laying around.
And what does the author tell us about performance? Why, two incredibly useful tidbits.
A) A dual Athlon 1500+ is much faster at running KDE than a Pentium 133 with 64 megs of ram.
B) A dual Athlon 1500+ is much faster at running Seti@home than a Pentium II 300.
So, here's a shout out to all the hardware companies on the planet. If you contact me and send me free shit, I'll happily certify that it works, keep it, and write an obtuse, irrelevant and worthless "review" on how your system is faster than the Toshiba 386 laptop I currently do my Non Linear video editing and POVRAY on.
Re:So, let me get this straight.
by
Arandir
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· Score: 2
Daemonnews does more than just manage two websites. They also print a deadtree version of the magazine, sell software, books, and misc. stuff, hold BSD related courses, and sell support.
-- A Government Is a Body of People, Usually Notably Ungoverned
Re:So, let me get this straight.
by
Omega996
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· Score: 1
well, actually one good point (not even a minor one). at least i can see that 4.4-RELEASE builds on AMD - there have been some issues with AMD processors and building FreeBSD kernels in the fairly recent past (at least for me).
I will give everybody certificates.
by
Corpset
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· Score: 2, Interesting
That is, if they send me free hardware. I don't mean to sound mean, but isn't it something fishy about that "review"?
Hell, if I could get something for free that thing alone would be a bonus in my review. Free stuff is good stuff. Even if it's bad, it's still good just because it was free. And now it's certified.
DaemonNews?
by
Anonymous Coward
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· Score: -1, Troll
Begging pardon, but DaemonNews has the feeling of a Commodore Users Group.
Looking at the art and content reminds one of fat balding men in thong sandals and hawaiian shirts, getting together with a box of disks under each arm, ready to swap C-64 software and theorize on the world-changing wonders of the Amiga, once they can someday afford one.
Amateur hour weekends in the community college lecture hall. You can hear the user group leader reciting from Roberts Rules of Order, trying to interrupt the treasurer's argument against four packs of hotdog buns instead of three for next month's outdoor picnic.
Somewhere in the background, two prepubescent kids decide it'd be neat to label a new system "certified" because one of them thought of a neat little logo, and both think a new system looks cool.
When ever you posted that, it was at the bottom of the list of comments. And further down then that is the little box that has a random quote/statement.. and funny enough... when i was reading your post it said..
"Make a wish, it might come true. "
BSD IS DEAD!
by
Anonymous Coward
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· Score: -1, Troll
At the deli, some kid kept pestering the man behind the counter. he wanted to know how the desensitizing ointments worked.. he kept reading the names aloud, and asking why they were different. I'd be surprised if he even knew how to work his tool yet.
Some poor little girl is going to be sore, and pregnant with an idiots child...
I went to an interview. The ad read, "Administrative Assistant wanted For Night Club."
Lets just say many corporate admin. assistants were quite surprised to find that it was a strip club. The lady that interviewed assured me that the women seemed scared.
I thought it was funny. While I am qualified for the position, I don't think I'll be entertaining you with funny strip club stories.. The gig doesn't start until May, and I need a gig now..
Although, if they hire me, I might contemplate the shittiest gig ever in between..
I'm sure the stories would be worth it!
Another fucked up thing I saw today, and I swear it's true...
I saw a lady pick the boogers off of her toddlers nose.
THEN SHE ATE IT!!!!!!
where the hell am i today?????
Now cut that out!
by
Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 0
You're making me hungry for FUDge (again).
FACT: slashdot subscriptions are overpriced.
by
Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 0
What does it mean to be "certified" by daemonnews.org? Is that supposed to hold any water? Will Slashdot be selling "certified" Linux boxes anytime soon?
Finally FreeBSD works fine with multiprocessor systems, the autor had no problems with his 2 Athlon MPs, that's really great. Finally, you can have a really powerful smp - FreeBSD server system for not too much money! The installation was completed with only one cpu, but a new kernel with the options SMP and APIC_IO enable both cpus.
Life sucks.
BSD is undead !
Mwwahahahahahaahahahhaaaaaa !
... for Seti@Home.
.... ;-)
;-)
Good to see that 3 months of use and 8 Seti Units a day gives hardware a certificate
In all fairness, that was a stressful test (CPU Wise), but the report could have been a little more fleshy given a 3 month review period.
I will certify hardware if I can up my SETI Stats at the same time....
gus
--
Certified to compute fourier transforms....
.. if only.
Sounds like "VA-Whatever-It-Happens-To-Be-Today" to me. How well did they do?
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD ccounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is dead
*BSD is under the weather...
Recently, Slashdot [goatse.cx] confirmed that WindRiver bucked FreeBSD out on its ass for a carton of Winstons and a case of Moosehead. This only serves to confirm the fact that FreeBSD is unwanted, doomed to be passed around like an old copy of redhat 7.2.
*BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are quite good. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among scientists and engineers. *BSD continues to improve. Nothing short of a miracle save Linux at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is thriving.
FACT: slashdot subscriptions are overpriced.
Daemon News is a dual headed site, "publishing" a once monthy web based "zine" full of largely irrelevant BSD "stories". They also have the daily section which is a low volume slashdot clone centered on BSD news running an inferior Slash clone based in PHP.
Though, being an OpenBSD user, I check the site regularly for snippets of news not picked up elsewhere, it has always felt like a site some guy runs in his basement. So, I was surprised that AMD would send them hardware.
And how much better off are we for AMD's gift? Are there any shocking revelations? Well, no. FreeBSD works in SMP mode, though the install kernel doesn't recognize the second CPU. Shocking. I've run FreeBSD as an MP3 fileserver/streamer in my basement for months on an old Dual Celeron 366 Abit BP6 I had laying around.
And what does the author tell us about performance? Why, two incredibly useful tidbits.
A) A dual Athlon 1500+ is much faster at running KDE than a Pentium 133 with 64 megs of ram.
B) A dual Athlon 1500+ is much faster at running Seti@home than a Pentium II 300.
So, here's a shout out to all the hardware companies on the planet. If you contact me and send me free shit, I'll happily certify that it works, keep it, and write an obtuse, irrelevant and worthless "review" on how your system is faster than the Toshiba 386 laptop I currently do my Non Linear video editing and POVRAY on.
That is, if they send me free hardware. I don't mean to sound mean, but isn't it something fishy about that "review"?
Hell, if I could get something for free that thing alone would be a bonus in my review. Free stuff is good stuff. Even if it's bad, it's still good just because it was free. And now it's certified.
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Looking at the art and content reminds one of fat balding men in thong sandals and hawaiian shirts, getting together with a box of disks under each arm, ready to swap C-64 software and theorize on the world-changing wonders of the Amiga, once they can someday afford one.
Amateur hour weekends in the community college lecture hall. You can hear the user group leader reciting from Roberts Rules of Order, trying to interrupt the treasurer's argument against four packs of hotdog buns instead of three for next month's outdoor picnic.
Somewhere in the background, two prepubescent kids decide it'd be neat to label a new system "certified" because one of them thought of a neat little logo, and both think a new system looks cool.
DaemonNews certification was born.
Some poor little girl is going to be sore, and pregnant with an idiots child...
I went to an interview. The ad read, "Administrative Assistant wanted For Night Club."
Lets just say many corporate admin. assistants were quite surprised to find that it was a strip club. The lady that interviewed assured me that the women seemed scared.
I thought it was funny. While I am qualified for the position, I don't think I'll be entertaining you with funny strip club stories.. The gig doesn't start until May, and I need a gig now..
Although, if they hire me, I might contemplate the shittiest gig ever in between.. I'm sure the stories would be worth it!
Another fucked up thing I saw today, and I swear it's true...
I saw a lady pick the boogers off of her toddlers nose.
THEN SHE ATE IT!!!!!!
where the hell am i today?????
You're making me hungry for FUDge (again).
So is Linux.