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Digitizing VGA?

mvidal01 writes: "I have been looking for hardware to digitize the VGA output of a PC. After searching for a long time I have found a few solutions but nothing really great. If possible I would like to avoid converting the VGA signal to NTSC or PAL video with a scan converter because the quality tends to suck. So how about it Slashdot readers. Anyone know of hardware that will allow hires VGA to be digitized?"

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  1. It'd be nice to know the application... by stienman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The reason you find very few options for doing this is because there is almost always a better, cheaper, faster way of grabbing a screen without actually reading and interpretting the output.

    A better Ask Slashdot tells us what you're trying to accomplish, and why you've dismissed the 'obvious' solutions (such as software, or a card inside the computer, etc).

    The only reason I can see where you'd have to do it this way is if you don't have full access to the computer (can't load software, can't open case, trying to circumvent digital copyright protection, etc), but you still want to see what's on the screen.

    I've been thinking about this for awhile mainly because I have to monitor hundreds of computers remotely. In some cases I need to control them before the system completes the boot-up process (ie, before software can be loaded), and in other cases I'm using operating systems for which inexpensive software is not available even after boot up. The solution I'm leaning toward is custom hardware (everything runs at 640x480 or less) which compresses and sends the signal over modem or tcp/ip. I haven't implemented it yet, but I enjoy thinking about it. Capturing higher resolution pictures is more involved.

    Speaking of which, what do you need to do, exaclty? Do you just want to capture screen shots, or are you interested in spying on the stream in real (or near real) time? Do you need to capture those streams? How much color depth do you need? What's your budget? Does it need to be user friendly, or geek friendly?

    -Adam

  2. Re:Why? by jilles · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Why would you like to do this?"

    Maybe to transport it over a longer distance than analog cables allow? While I agree that maybe it is a bit silly to do a AD conversion after a DA conversion has already taken place it does make me wonder why monitors don't do their own (presumably optimized) DA conversion and receive their signal in a digital form only.

    It has always puzzled me that my monitor has to tell my PC what signal it needs (you needed to look up the proper refreshrates yourself before plug and play monitors arrived). Surely, modern gigabit network interfaces are fast enough to transfer the signal digitally? A 1600*1024 screen amounts to about 1.6 million pixels. In 24 bit color this requires about 4.7 MB for one screen (uncompressed). At 60 screen refreshes per second that's 300 MB/s. That is pretty much for a 1 gigabit line, so lets use two lines or do some compression (at this rate most frames will have a lot in common).

    What would be the advantages? Simpler video cards in the PC. Better performing displays since the DA conversion can be tuned to the specific display. Better connectivity to e.g. alternative types of displays (beamers, tv's, etc.). Longer distance between PC and display and input devices (might as well tunnel USB signals over it too!), postprocessing of the signal in the monitor (digitally resize, display signals from 2 PCs on one screen and switch between them or show scaled versions, ....), use mpeg4 compression and stream it over the internet or capture it on DVD-R.

    There's a lot to be said in favor of getting rid of the analog transmission of video signals between PC and display. There's already standards for the digital transmission of audio (e.g. spdif) so why not do the same for video?

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    Jilles