Re:"Free" Linux Distro
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mark_lybarger
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· Score: 2, Flamebait
sorry, preachers such as mr. stallman don't have time to answer obvious questions such as this. I'll help him out a little. yes debian includes free software, but it's based on the Linux kernel which refused to call it GNU/Linux. If they won't have GNU someplace in the name, and refuse to ad those 3 little letters somewhere, then Stallman's little group will start up their own competing, less mature, and less feature rich proejct because the free software must be GNU. oh wait i was thinking about the gnome stuff. it only has 2 letters and HURD, well.. still seems like a revenge type thing to me.
Does Hurd run.net? Does it compile C#? Does it emulate Cleartype? Does it use official Microsoft.dlls or does it rely on immitations?
Get a clue
by
OeLeWaPpErKe
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· Score: 1, Flamebait
the kernel alone will run ?
1) how will you compile it ? Not with GNU compiler collection I hope... 2) how will you install it ? Not with the GNU bootloader I hope 3) What will it run ? Not a GNU shell I hope (bash, csh,...) 4) What desktop system will you run on it ? Not GNOME (GNU...) I hope
nearly all components of the "linux" operating system are GNU, except the kernel itself...
Linux alone actually runs quite well, though not doing much of interest. But by adding only a few (non-GNU, I believe) tools to the kernel, it is quite capable as, for example, a router.
Perhaps you're not familiar with this, but when all Un*x kernels (including Linux) boot, they automatically run a program called `init', which, in turn, invokes/bin/sh to run all the basic system services. According to the LSB, the Linux shell is GNU Bash (sorry, can't find the link right now). So, an LSB-compliant system requires Bash to boot!
-- There are reasons why democracy does not work nearly as well as capitalism. -- David D. Friedman
Re:I do not Agree with what you say
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praedor
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Don't be naive. He is obviously refering to RMS's insistence that ALL software be free and that there is NEVER justification to not make it free.
Hard, fast, rules rarely apply universally. RMS is a little too simple-minded on the whole idea, but that is easy when one comes from a fully developed First World country and has money to live on.
There are some things that should always be required to be opened and "free": communication standards on the internet, APIs, and all those things required to allow ALL systems to interoperate. Beyond that, all bets are off.
-- In Bushworld, they struggle to keep church and state separate in Iraq as they increasingly merge the two in America.
Stallmans Ego.
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vlad_rodionov
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· Score: 0, Flamebait
Stallman may appesar like your average tree hugging long haired hippie but beneath the hippie facade hides a ruthless man with an ego the size of Bill Gates. Scott McNealy and Larry Ellison combined.
When he speaks there is a barely conceladed hatred of Linux in his words.At best he views it as stop gap measure before his baby the HURD takes over the world. He hates Linux because its success was like a slap on the face for him. Even in his dakerst nitemares he couldnt imagine then an OS written by an unknown Finish stufdent would attractt thousands of opens source develpers while an OS developed by the father of free software slowly fades into obscurity
sorry, preachers such as mr. stallman don't have time to answer obvious questions such as this. I'll help him out a little. yes debian includes free software, but it's based on the Linux kernel which refused to call it GNU/Linux. If they won't have GNU someplace in the name, and refuse to ad those 3 little letters somewhere, then Stallman's little group will start up their own competing, less mature, and less feature rich proejct because the free software must be GNU. oh wait i was thinking about the gnome stuff. it only has 2 letters and HURD, well.. still seems like a revenge type thing to me.
Does Hurd run .net? Does it compile C#? Does it emulate Cleartype? Does it use official Microsoft .dlls or does it rely on immitations?
the kernel alone will run ?
... ...) ...) I hope
...
1) how will you compile it ? Not with GNU compiler collection I hope
2) how will you install it ? Not with the GNU bootloader I hope
3) What will it run ? Not a GNU shell I hope (bash, csh,
4) What desktop system will you run on it ? Not GNOME (GNU
nearly all components of the "linux" operating system are GNU, except the kernel itself
Just a thought
Perhaps you're not familiar with this, but when all Un*x kernels (including Linux) boot, they automatically run a program called `init', which, in turn, invokes
There are reasons why democracy does not work nearly as well as capitalism.
-- David D. Friedman
Don't be naive. He is obviously refering to RMS's insistence that ALL software be free and that there is NEVER justification to not make it free.
Hard, fast, rules rarely apply universally. RMS is a little too simple-minded on the whole idea, but that is easy when one comes from a fully developed First World country and has money to live on.
There are some things that should always be required to be opened and "free": communication standards on the internet, APIs, and all those things required to allow ALL systems to interoperate. Beyond that, all bets are off.
In Bushworld, they struggle to keep church and state separate in Iraq as they increasingly merge the two in America.
Stallman may appesar like your average tree hugging long haired hippie but beneath the hippie facade hides a ruthless man with an ego the size of Bill Gates. Scott McNealy and Larry Ellison combined.
When he speaks there is a barely conceladed hatred of Linux in his words.At best he views it as stop gap measure before his baby the HURD takes over the world. He hates Linux because its success was like a slap on the face for him. Even in his dakerst nitemares he couldnt imagine then an OS written by an unknown Finish stufdent would attractt thousands of opens source develpers while an OS developed by the father of free software slowly fades into obscurity
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