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Air Force Warns Microsoft/Others to Tighten Security

FattyBoeBatty wrote to us with a story from USA Today about the the Air Force and security concerns. The Microsoft point is the primary point of the article, but the AF CIO has also made the point at industry forums, and evidently with Cisco. Specific companies aside, I think it's a good thing that organizations are beignning to realize the exposure they have on security issues - and maybe will actually start to take steps to close them.

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  1. Then why do they stay? by FortKnox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why do they stick with MS if they have security issues?
    Why hasn't anyone asked this question?

    We run Exchange Server, and we get hit by an Exchange Server virii
    Quick solution: Don't use exchange server.

    Why sit and wait for MS to comply?
    It just seems odd to me.

    Note: I'm not saying "Y d0nt j00 B 1337 4nd us3 L1NU><?" I'm just asking why stick with MS.

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    1. Re:Then why do they stay? by Pii · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I'm not sure you understand the economics of the military...

      It does not cost the Air Force anything to retrain, nor to reconfigure.

      The Air Force (and the military in general) is already paying for the training of every person that enters the service. It would be a trivial matter for them to re-tool the courses in their Computer Sciences School, so that the students learned some other product or technology. (Besides, it's not like they teach an "NT Systems Administrator" course... They teach basics, like "Computer Programming," or "Computer Operations." The real training occurs on the job, after the E-2 or E-3 posts to his first duty station. In the Marine Corps, I entered as a "Cobol Programmer," and my fist duty billet was in networking (Banyan Vines, Ethernet and Token Ring environments).)

      Likewise, the cost of reconfiguring all of the systems they've already purchased is also free. They have a labor force that they are already paying (that they have to pay, twice monthly, regardless of what they are tasked with), so why not "upgrade" all of the mail systems. It will not affect their costs at all.

      This is a luxury that most of Microsoft's customers do not have, but is a very real, very possible option for the Armed Forces.

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    2. Re:Then why do they stay? by elandal · · Score: 4, Insightful
      We run Exchange Server, and we get hit by an Exchange Server virii
      Quick solution: Don't use exchange server.

      A solution allowing internal use of Exchange is also possible.

      Don't expose Exchange servers to the internet. Have internet email come to a secure MTA (no, not sendmail, something more simple and more easily secured). The internet-MTA can then spool email for virusscanning and whatever other mangling needs to be done (remove every attachment with filename ending with .vbs (and a hundred others) and so on). After mangling, forward to internal Exchange servers.

      Easy, doesn't require powerful machines even for a large amount of email (OK, depends on the amount of mangling done), easily replicated to several sites, and likely to be near-zero administration.
  2. Responsibility by ksw2 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    As much as I enjoy seeing Microsoft get negative publicity, maybe the Airforce should evaluate their own security practices... I mean, wasn't the Lovebug an email attachment virus? Couldn't a relevant security policy have changed this? I'm not fluent in Windows holes, but it seems to me if they have a huge problem with Outlook in particular, USAF could mandate Eudora as their official email client rather easily.

    I'm not trying to say M$ is inoccent, I just want to point out that no matter how secure the OS is, users need to be educated in computer security, or it's all going to go to shit anwyay. My $0.02 (cha-ching)

  3. Being a Communications/Computer officer in the AF by gsfprez · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I totaly disbelieve this article.

    We are whole heartedly all out sold out to Microsoft.

    We (actually, the US military) have recently implimented a MS only messaging solution using Exchange and Outlook called DMS. The solution took well over 6 years to develop secure email (snicker), and still doesn't work right. Even though there is freeware that could have been implimented that we would be able to see the source code for - the PHB lemmings of the AF chose, instead, to go with a MS solution.

    We also recently moved to a multi-thousand GAL (global Address list) - the microsoft proprietary solution which has opened us up for years to things like Mellissa and I LOVE YOU and all of that other crap that used MS features to spread itself like wildfire.

    Every base has MS license agreemets for support - and by those agreements - like the rest of the world - are either going to continue paying $.50 a hit for our fix each year, or pay $100 each time we buy another computer.

    As a young Lt., I spent 6 months replaceing perfectly functional Solaris boxes that performed our web, smtp, DNS, SQL, and other basic network services with NT 4.0 boxes. A week after we recovered from Service Pack 2 - i strongly recommended that we slow our migration - and that it was costing us more time and money supporting Windows machines than the UNIX boxes which never needed any work or upkeep. Some had uptimes of 4 years until I pulled the plugs on them. (don't beat me - i was the lowest ranking puke in the house - and i did what i was told)

    After the first virus attack - I stood up in a meeting and demanded to know why the room wanted to spend all its time figureing out how to rip out the functionalities of the Windows boxes that made us vulnerable and didn't look at solutions which were inherently not vulnerable - and was flabbergasted. It was like I was in a room full of guys from Boston and had said that the Bruins sucked. They all became instant apologists for MS and their shit software... how it wasn't that hard to fix the problem and that we had virus software, yada yada yada..

    Meanwhile - my home Mac OS 8 server was chugging along just fine, even though I had gotten the viruses from lots of people at work. But it easily could have been a FreeBSD or Linux box too.

    This is a lot of huffing a puffing. Its a farce. It is because there is no one with the nads to make a descision against what everyone knows - that MS 0wn2 J00, stupid Air Force.

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  4. mistaken perceptions.... by rusty0101 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I was just thinking back on why this might be a problem for the military in general. Havng had some experience as an admin in the Army, amoungst some other experiences, I feel comfortable with the asertion that from the perspective of a software user, the millitary is no different than any major corporate entity. While they do have hardware and software than most corporations do not have, the same can be said for GM, Sabre, and Citicorp. Yet for most day to day operational stuff, admins, supply people, and more and more mechanics are using off the shelf software to support their job. Part of this is cost savings. Even at inflated dod prices, it costs them less to purchase Office than it does to write their own office suite. For situations that do not require hardened computers, it is cheaper to buy off the shelf than to custom order. That doesn't mean that these systems require any less security than corporate systems do, or even that they need more security, though that is arguable. However the implications of a hacked PC that manages where soldiers are going to be stationed, or what parts are in inventory, or what grade screw belongs on that part of the engine, are a bit different for computers in the military than they are for a corporate office. Likewise for whether that order makes it to the server in a timely manner. For a buisness, it means money. For the Military it also means money, but it can also mean lives, or battles. -Rusty

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