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New Info-Sharing Regs Make Tracking Easier
sgtrock writes: "This one is bad. Really, really bad. According to BankTech News, the U.S. Treasury Department has proposed new regulations that essentially allow banks and the Feds to share information about any individual who ends up on a watch list. This action is based upon their interpretation of the USA Patriot Act. If this goes through, forget your right to privacy, folks. It doesn't exist! Check out the whole story. Write your Congress critters, your Senators, and the Treasury Department. Let them know just how bad an idea this is."
but keep in mind you have to be on a watch list first. getting on that list requires involvement with a terrorist organization or doing crime, something 99.999% of everyone here will never do. Hence only .001% of everyone here risk ending up on those watch lists.
These are two seperate words folks. It's interesting how ppl get so up in arms about anything that involves information about you. It's not like they are coordinating credit card reports, ATM slips, bank accounts, plane tickets, calls you make, and your electric bill, all to provide you with more directed spam.
This is being done to *protect* us from *terrorists*, you know, those guys who killed thousands of ppl about 6 months ago (you may have read about it in the newspaper).
It seems like ppl here get more up in arms than the NRA supporters (no pun intended). Ppl have to understand that some correlation will be done no matter what, regulating this and making it public is better than letting the FBI run amock with there computers and our data.
Maybe someone can explain to me what danger this puts me in, unless I am a terrorist...
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it aint permanent. the patriot act has something like a 5 year sunset. plus that "watch list" takes some considerable effort to get onto - like being a taliban or terrorist or something.
ANd make death threats to the president? That oughta get you on a watch list, then you can tell all of us what it feels like to be a terrorist. Because after all, its for our protection. Or maybe the FBI will just "make ransacking your house and the body caity searches "Public", since you seem to think that its ok to let the FBI correlate these things without any sort of judicial oversight.
YEah, you can call me flamebait, but you would have called me that if I told you theyd be strip searching your grandmother at an airport a year ago.
Best to take that brown shirt off to the dry cleaners now, you will want to make a good impression
This is what I am talking about, how can you expect ppl to respect and listen to your opinion when you flip out whenever the topic comes up. You do have some valid points, but they are lost in your tone.
Your point is the exact same one that many NRA members quote, basically its "Once they start making these rules what's to stop them?". Well if you can't allow the government to make some rules to help everyone then you have fundamental problems with our gov't. Maybe you should try to address those, rather than this one issue.
Basically, the gov't has to do something to try to stop bad ppl. It makes things worse for the rest of us, but that's life. The point is to help educate and influence the gov't to allow laws that are usefull and fair. This bank checking thing doesn't seem that bad, allowing them to "ransack my house" would not be right. We should all oppose that, but opposing the whole issue catagorically gets us nowhere and makes your cause look infantile.
just my $.02
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When I first started doing this, it was a little odd and inconvenient. Now, I feel a great sense of liberty. Excepting my bills, nobody knows what the hell I'm doing with my money. Cash transactions are a lot faster at stores, plus there's always money on-hand.
Ever since the "Know Your Customer" initiative a few years back, and since learning about SARs, I've become even more wary of financial institutions. It's gotten to the point where I'm thinking about socking away my savings (which goes now into mutual funds) into a safe. Mr. Ashcroft can look at my records all he wants and he won't see much. Losing a little bit of interest is worth it to me, in order that I may have a little more privacy in this witch-hunt government we now have to live with.
I don't like the fact that: 1) My financial history can be reviewed on a whim; and 2) My assets can be siezed almost on a whim. Look at those poor folks in South America, whose banks throttled their own money usage. I won't ever be caught in that situation.
I usually don't have that much money on-hand, so all you scare-mongers can hold back on the "what if you get mugged" thing. I pay all bills and do any essential expenditures that same day (the big grocery spree, getting car tuned, etc.).
If only I could force my employer to pay in cash. They recently began requiring direct deposit!
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It might be a good idea though, so why not write your representatives about making it an amendment. It might give all the opposition to these kinds of laws something to stand on.
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If I can be modded down for being a troll, can I be modded up for being an orc, or a balrog?