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PC Fan of the Future?

baptiste writes "While we marvel at the latest CPU release or new motherboard chipset, we still put the same old fans in the neon lit cases and then complain that it is too loud. Well, maybe someone has finally come up with the next generation PC fan. Y.S. Tech has announced a new fan which is driven at the blade tips by a magnetic motor in the housing. Without the motor in the middle they claim a 30% airflow improvement meaning, potenitally, you could get the same airflow of today's fans at a lower RPM meaning less noise. They also claim the fan tips result in the bulk of fan noise. In this design they are sort of enclosed, reducing noise further. There is also a PDF datasheet available."

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  1. Finally no center motor! by denzo · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Gads, finally. That's what kills most of the flowrate on these fans, especially the current variety of Y.S. Tech fans. These fans' centers are easily 1.5 inches in diameter, a fairly large area for a static air pocket to sit underneath, right above where the chip die of the CPU is.

    This is why dual-fan HSF setups primarily dominated, especially back when slot CPUs were still popular: you didn't have that static area of air. Sure, you had a hell of a lot more airflow from two fans, but one can argue that a lot of the kinetic energy is lost when air from the two fans collide.

    Either way, this is a great improvement for CPU fans. Bravo, Y.S. Tech, it looks like you're taking the crown back from Delta (which is just more RPM, albeit much more noisy, for better performance).

  2. Trend is positive... by maelstrom · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I wish I could say I was a performance junky (but I can't)... Or rather, I would be one if I could afford to. As it is, I'd rather have a machine that I could tolerate sitting in front of for hours on end.

    A big part of this for me is being able to turn off the MP3's every so often and have enough silence to think! I'd rather have a 500mhz that can do all the development I can throw at it, than a 747 powered fan sitting on top of a Gigahertz!

    Seems that some of these companies are catching on that it might be possible to have the best of both worlds. My hope is that consumers will follow along enough to bring the cost of production low enough that even I can afford them. :)

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  3. I dunno... by colmore · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It seems like every once in a while someone comes up with a latest-greatest new heatsink design. I've seen weird platinum peacock feathers and those wavy metal strips from a while back. They all look kind of goofy, and when really put to the test, don't do too much better. Short of pipes nd pumps, big hunks of copper attached to really fast traditional fans are still the best thing going, and I don't think that's for lack of effort at finding new things.

    Because this is an improvement on the *fan* and not the whole heatsink, I give it a little more credence, but I won't be that interested until I actually see some Tom's numbers on it.

    And I really won't be interested in it until the pricetag falls below $100 for a fan. For that money you could water-cool, or just soundproof your case.

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  4. A cynical viewpoint or insightful? by t0qer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Having torn a many pcâ(TM)s apart, to the risk of slicing my hands upon the un de burred sheet metal. I have noticed 1 common elements that contribute to fan failure.

    Too much heat on the oil seal

    Looking at this compared to a ordinary fan, it looks as though the bearings and oil seals are evenly dispersed over the surface area of the heat sink, where most common fans have the bearings and oil seals right in the center in the middle of rising heat. Iâ(TM)m not a thermodynamics expert but I can tell you from experience that I have been able to bring many a dead CPU fans back from the dead simply by peeling the sticker off in the center and dropping a dab of oil in there.

    Anyways thatâ(TM)s my 2cents

  5. Another "Too Cool to Be Useful" cooler by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Another one of those "too cool to be
    useful" cooling fans.
    Center area has minimum effect on air
    transportation. Outside region of blade
    has most effect on air transportation.
    Too sad that blade diamater is redudced
    because "motor" sits outside.

    Heat from chip goes into heat sink. Heat
    sink has very good thermal conductivity
    (Alumininum or copper, much better than
    transition region heat sink -> air). So
    think of heat sink as an ideally stirred
    container. Weak additional middle air
    flow doesn't improve cooling. Reduced
    outside air flow _does_ reduce cooling
    performance.

    What makes an effective cooling device?
    * High surface heat sink with good thermal conductivity.
    * High volume, turbulent of air flow over whole surface.
    * Fancy design does move your money but doesn't move heat.

    1. Re:Another "Too Cool to Be Useful" cooler by denzo · · Score: 4, Insightful
      It's about moving the air better, not faster. If flowrate is all the matters, then we would just stick huge fans on our heatsinks that spin at a bazillion RPM. Overclockers are gravitating towards the whiney Delta fans just because it gives them faster air flow; sure, if you increase flowrate, you'll get more turbulent airflow to force air through the entire heatsink, not leaving any static air "pockets." But is this really the most efficient way to do this? Forcing turbulent air through your heatsink? It comes at the cost of noise, electricity, and fan life. Larger fans aren't really an option, since the 60mm form factor is prevalent in the CPU industry right now and for the forseable future.

      Getting better, more uniform airflow that can circulate the entire heatsink without increasing RPM is the best way to go, and improves performance while reducing noise, per the design at the product page linked from the article.

      And making heatsinks bigger just isn't an option. Yes, more surface area helps, but as you increase the distance of the thermal transfer material (Al or Cu), it's effectiveness drops. Making very thin fins makes much more delicate and expensive heatsinks. There is already a surge of copper heatsinks on the market, and their surface area can't be improved too much because of their mallability (bends easily). Also, with processor dies shrinking, the ability for larger heatsinks to transfer heat from such a small surface area is reduced. The only way to improve upon this is for CPU manufacturers to spread out their die sizes, or reduce heat output with each new stepping, which won't happen because of wafer costs. So much centralized heat on such a small surface area just makes newer heatsink designs pointless.