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Knuth: All Questions Answered

sunhou writes: "The AMS published a lecture by Donald Knuth called All Questions Answered (pdf), where Knuth simply responded to questions from the audience. Topics ranged from errors in software ('I think Microsoft should say, "You'll get a check from Bill Gates every time you find an error"') to how he gets distracted by fonts on restaurant menus, to software patents. There were some really good questions (and responses)."

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  1. The technology behind TeX by Above · · Score: 5, Insightful

    TeX has always facinated me. Let's face it, it works. I believe there is more bugs than he is writing checks for, but that said they are seldom encountered by mere mortals. If you do normal stuff it just works.

    There is nothing else like it. No commercial product, no non-commercial product. If you want to typeset mathematics, it's the only game in town. If you want to typeset anything, it's one of very few games in town. It's open source. It's multi-platform. It has a huge following, but gets no press.

    It really is an amazing thing, and something that every open source project should aspire to....

    1. Re:The technology behind TeX by Papineau · · Score: 5, Interesting

      In the publishing field, there is quite a lot of software used before latex

      And LaTeX has been in use since 1986 IIRC. The current version (LaTeX2e) dates from 1994. I'm not sure the first PowerPC was commercialised at that time.

      Not to mention that LaTeX is an extension of TeX, which is even older. The TeXbook has been published in 1984, which was after the release of the program itself.

      If you have some name of program used before LaTeX and still in use, could you name them for us? Thank you!

    2. Re:The technology behind TeX by Lictor · · Score: 5, Informative

      >but the only game in town (for mathematics or anything)? No, not really.

      I can't speak for general publishing, but for serious math publishing I have to respectfully disagree. If you have ever even remotely come into contact with serious mathematics you will be aware that Springer-Verlag (http://www.springer.de/) is one of the major publishers.

      I have never prepared a manuscript for a Springer book or journal that was *not* in TeX format.

      Could you give me some examples of the "quite a lot of software used before latex"? Specifically what "math" publishers use standards other than TeX... I'd truly be interested because I've never come across one.

      As a side note, please be careful not to confuse LaTeX with TeX. LaTeX (which I admit to using most of the time) is kind of like "TeX for dummies". (Thats not entirely fair... LaTeX makes 95% of what I want to do easier and faster than plain TeX... but for that last 5%, LaTeX makes me want to punch things. LaTeX=easy, TeX=flexible).

    3. Re:The technology behind TeX by chialea · · Score: 4, Interesting
      First of all, you get a complete control over the layout. Secondly, you don't have to read tons of manuals in order to use it.

      I don't know exactly what you've done, but as someone who's had to do papers in both word and latex, let me respectfully point out that making a word document look the same (or even have the same number of pages) on multiple computers, let alone multiple versions of Word, is something that made me tear my hair out. You want control, you use TeX. Period. You want a lot of control, but ease of use, you use LaTeX. You want total and complete frustration because your paper is a different number of pages depending on the computer, splits text in the dumbest places (leaves orphan headers), and so on ad nauseum, you use Word. You don't get control with Word. Even when you've micromanaged the text. I spent a week doing this, and vowed never to use Word again, and thus to never submit to this conference. (The conference I was submitting to was a bit out of my area, in any case, and is completely out now.)

      Lea

  2. Mirror by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 4, Informative
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  3. some humor..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    got this in an email a few days ago....

    Richard M. Stallman, Linus Torvalds, and Donald E. Knuth
    engage in a discussion on whose impact on the computerized world was the greatest.

    Stallman: "God told me I have programmed the best editor in
    the world!"

    Torvalds: "Well, God told *me* that I have programmed the
    best operating system in the world!"

    Knuth: "Wait, wait - I never said that."

    1. Re:some humor..... by Dolly_Llama · · Score: 5, Interesting
      You're trolling now, but I just cant resist..

      Hitler was in no way a christian, in fact his aryan beliefs were in almost complete contradiction to any christian belief. And the holocaust was based on race, not religion.


      Hitler was indeed a christian. He did very evil things, but he was still a christian. Your second point however, is correct, the holocaust was about race, however the eugenicists saw it..

      The Christian religion, is one of the primary reasons for the development of Europe to where it is today. Considering the immense influence it has had over the last 1500 years, it it not supprising that bad things came along with the good. The problem is with human nature, compared to any powerful instituion before it, it was a model of civility.

      In fact, Christianity was one of the prime factors holding BACK Western European civilization for the 6-800 years following the fall of the roman empire. What need is there to innovate and to improve your lot in life if the messiah's second coming is right around the corner? It was only after Greco-Roman thought was re-introduced via Islam that Western European civilization started its upswing. Even later, the church had to be pulled kicking and screaming through the centuries by science. From Gailileo to Creationism, the church has had a great damping effect on scientific progress. See A History of the Warfare of Science with Theology in Christendom for many, many more examples.

      I'm not trying to take a dump on your beliefs. If they work for you, great. Have a cookie. But don't try to paint Christianity, or any other religion too rosy. Like most institutions, it has its darker side, and Christianity has a very dark one indeed.

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      Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. -- Carl Sagan

  4. Online PDF Conversion Here -- by sh0rtie · · Score: 5, Informative



    http://access.adobe.com/adv_form.html

    just enter the url of said pdf and hit submit and voila good ol' html is returned

  5. More Knuth Stories Wanted by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Well, I would like to ask the slashdot editors to please post more Knuth news. I think that his contributions to Computer Science deserve to be more widely appreciated by everybody even remotely connected with Computer Science (and not only the theoretically inclined people).

    Unfortunately, I recognize that not everybody reading Slashdot has a theoretical education in Computer Science (well, many people are only practically trained -- if such a thing even exists) and miss the elegant construction of algorithms that Donald Knuth does in his books, algorithms which are efficient both regarding space and time (things which I miss in most software being written today, sadly).

    This is not to mention the care with which his books are written, from didactic, technical and typographical standpoints: a lesson on how to write well.

    I guess that the problem I mentioned above about current programmers writing code which is not exactly space- and time-efficient is that they must think "it's not worth it" (or many haven't actually even thought about the subject). A pity indeed.

    This is, unfortunately, one of the bad sides of the ease of current (integrated) programming environments (which doesn't man that they are bad): people which aren't exactly trained can program, their programs run, but in a sub-optimal way.

    I also think that many programming environments are an incentive to trial-and-error programming ("recompiling the program is too easy -- don't even bother to think if we have to add 1 or subtract 1"). This, of course, leads to sloopy programming.

    Anyway, back to Knuth, I would really love to see a Slashdot interview with him, as I would appreciate anything regarding him and computers.

  6. I don't cash my Knuth checks by jquiroga · · Score: 4, Funny
    • To cash my two Knuth checks: $2.94 + $2.56
    • To show them off to my hacker friends and see their faces turn green with envy: Priceless
    1. Re:I don't cash my Knuth checks by PurpleBob · · Score: 5, Funny

      This is Knuth you're talking about. He probably totals his checks in complex numbers.

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  7. Quality, Workmanship, Pride... by PhotoGuy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Knuth truly does represent much of what is good an interesting about our profession.

    For those who didn't read the article, or didn't come across this fact elsewhere, Knuth actually personally writes a cheque to anyone who finds errors in his books.

    While the algorithms and theory that he wrote about in his classic texts are used by computer programmers worldwide every day, it's unfortunate that the kind of pride of workmanship that he personally demonstrates, doesn't seem to be the norm.

    I've always felt like the programming profession was, and still is, a bit of a joke as far as standardized quality goes, as compared to other engineering disciplines. The old joke, "if builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs ..." is still frighteningly true; other engineering professions do not often have a commonplace equivalent of a blue-screen or core-dump. There are occasional engineering failures, but none as widespread as programming errors.

    Maybe because we're still forging new ground so quickly that it can't be expected to have solid results. Still, for things as standardized, commonplace, and essential as operating systems, the design should be such that a blue screen is unheard of.

    -me

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