Slashdot Mirror


Turn Your PC Into A Tablet

Odkin writes "Geekstreet.ca has a story on a new concept invented by Philips called Detachable Monitor. It's an LCD with a touch screen that connects to your PC via 802.11b. I found this article in German with some nice hi-res pictures and there's also a link at Philips' homepage. "

13 of 116 comments (clear)

  1. Microsoft Mira by XRayX · · Score: 5, Informative

    Microsoft presents something similiar on the CeBit. It's called Mira and is a hybrid between a PDA, a Webpad and a PC.
    Read about it at CNet and Microsoft PressPass.

    --
    Boycot? Blackout? Subscriptions?
    I don't care!
    1. Re:Microsoft Mira by cristofer8 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Microsoft announced MIRA awhile ago, and this seems to be exactly the same thing. As Mira is just the software behind it, I would not be surprised at all if the phillips screen actually runs on Mira. Just for more info, a Mira screen is running Windows CE.NET and connecting to a windows xp sp1 desktop through remote desktop. And no, it works terribly with video or 3d, since the CE screen can't render them well over an 11mb connection.

  2. protocol & usefulness by bromoseltzer · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The question is what is the link protocol and what's in the "remote display". They're not sending raw video (or X11) over WiFi, and the box has the ability to show jpegs locally. Hopefully it's not running Windows, but it might be -- using Windows Terminal Server or whatever that's called in the XP world. Surely that's what the MS Mira will do.

    The portable display (along with a portable keyboard/pointer) is the missing link in my home network. I carry around a laptop with WiFi sometimes, but this is overkill. I want the smarts in the "house server" and the remote terminal to be comfortable to carry, nice to look at, and not too expensive.

    So who's doing this in the OpenSource world?

    --Martin

    --
    Fiat Lux.
    1. Re:protocol & usefulness by richard-parker · · Score: 4, Informative

      The question is what is the link protocol and what's in the "remote display".
      It uses the Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP).

      Your guess about Windows Terminal Server is spot on. The article in German mentions that the Philips monitor is based on Microsoft's Mira technology, Mira relies on Microsoft's Terminal Server and Microsoft Terminal Server uses the Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP).
  3. DRM by tjansen · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Note that this kind of screen could be the first step to DRM mechanisms build into the output device: They could use it to send pictures or videos encrypted to the screen. Unless you know the key that's inside your screen there will be no chance to get the raw data. Much safer than a software solution. And at least a solution thats a little bit more OpenSource-friendly (you can safely give away the source of the OS without harming the DRM protection, because everything happens in the screen). Also note that the same thing is possible for audio with USB speakers.

  4. But of course... by selectspec · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ever since the first PC's, the technology in the box has been modularized and extracted from the box. Ironically, the PC was to break us free from the centralized mainframes.

    Networking has once again revitalized specialization, centralization and modularization of the components within the box. We no longer think of the printer being an accessory to the PC. Direct Attached, NAS, and SAN storage have moved disks out of the box. Applications which used to run on our PCs now live on the server.

    We now ask questions about our PCs. Why is there a hard disk in my workstation? Why is there a CPU capable of immense processing power in my workstation that will run idle for most of its life? Why is there anything in my PC other than the input and output devices that I require? Why can't everything else go in a specialized room somewhere, where it can be maintained, backed up and monitored more easily? Perhaps more controversially, why do I have to bother with that room at all and couldn't it be a service that I subsribe to?

    --

    Someone you trust is one of us.

  5. Re:Cool, but... bandwidth by richard-parker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yes, the monitor communicates with the PC via IEEE 802.11b at 11 Mbits/s. This isn't really adequate for anything that refreshes the screen a lot, especially since I doubt the communications protocol between the monitor and the PC is as high-level as the communication between an X client and an X server.

    The philips page here gives more details. I don't know why the Slashdot article links to the Philips home page instead of the Philips page that discusses the monitor.

  6. Wacom's touch screen monitor/tablet by bckspc · · Score: 3, Informative

    From http://www.wacom.com/lcdtablets/index.cfm:

    ---
    Wacom's Cintiq combines the advantages of an LCD monitor with the control, comfort, and productivity provided by a Wacom tablet. The LCD monitor is clear, bright and easy to look at. The Cintiq pen has 512 levels of pressure-sensitivity, is cordless, and batteryless and includes both a DuoSwitch and a pressure-sensitive eraser. The Cintiq pen is used directly on the screen offering everyone from designers and illustrators to doctors and professors a powerful and intuitive new way to work on their computers.

    The Cintiq LCD monitor is a true-color active matrix screen providing 16.7 million colors, a resolution of 1024 x 768 and a full 15" diagonal viewing area (the equivalent of a 17" CRT monitor).

    For comfort and convenience, Cintiq features a removable pen holder that can be attached to either side and adjusted to your preferred height and angle. The Cintiq stand allows you to easily adjust the angle of your Cintiq screen between 18 and 73 degrees - and you can even remove the stand to comfortably rest the Cintiq in your lap.
    ---

    It also works with UNIX.

  7. Re:Good idea for home theatre by pnear · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's a lengthly video, but Microsoft demonstrated this very use at CES. Video can be found at http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ehome/news/news.a sp.

    What you're talking about is exactly what I've been looking for from a PC as well. Microsoft is bundling this "Mira" detachable screen and their new "Freestyle" interface to deliver exactly the home media center that you're describing.

    The first version has the following limitations:
    1. Only one user session can be active
    2. No video or high-end graphics

    There's another good overview of these technologies here: http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/freestyle_mir a.asp

  8. 802.11b? by tswinzig · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How in the hell are they getting video to the monitor over 802.11b. The article doesn't cover this aspect at all.

    I can just imagine trying to decipher the text in my editor through all the block artifacts left from the MPEG compression they are doing to the video?!

    --

    "And like that ... he's gone."
  9. IBMs Meta Pad by XRayX · · Score: 3, Interesting

    IBM follows a much more interesting concept when it comes to such hybrid devices. It's called Meta Pad and is currently developed by IBM Research.
    The MetaPad provides different services in different environments without rebooting.

    --
    Boycot? Blackout? Subscriptions?
    I don't care!
  10. Invented by philips? by TummyX · · Score: 3, Informative


    "Geekstreet.ca has a story on a new concept invented by Philips called Detachable Monitor


    Considering Microsoft already have 'invented' the idea (Mira), and that Philips have just announceed that it will deliver Mira devices, don't you think the article summary is a bit um...made up?

    Perhaps this article would never have made it to the main page if it had said that Microsoft 'invented' the idea.

  11. This is a Microsoft Mira implementation by sheldon · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's nice to see slashdot.org announcing innovations coming out of Microsoft, but it would be nice if you'd properly attribute them as well.