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Mandrake 8.2 Available

Jester998 writes "Linux Mandrake 8.2 is out! Check out the official annoucement or head off to your closest mirror to grab the ISO images. The release is bound to be amazing, with the return of kernel-secure, a 65MB minimum install, hotplug device support, encrypted filesystems and more!"

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  1. wait a bit before slashing it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why not wait a couple of hours before slashdotting it?

  2. No...don't download the ISO's by 9632 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Buy them. Mandrake needs the cash.

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    1. Re:No...don't download the ISO's by Mr+Windows · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Better to download the ISOs and send the cash direct to Mandrake (eg by joining the Mandrake Linux Users Club). That way they'll see more of the cash, as you've cut out the middleman.

    2. Re:No...don't download the ISO's by searleb · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Buy them. Mandrake needs the cash.

      | sed -e 's/needs/deserves/g'

  3. Re:Awesome! It's the RH7.2 "killer" by forrest2000 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "they still only allow up2date go to 4.2.9 while 4.2.17 was out for mostly forever"

    Wow! 4.2.9 is much better than the 2.4.19-pre3 I found on ftp.kernel.org.

  4. I still don't like their packaging by Isldeur · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The one thing I never liked (don't know if they still do it, but it was done this way in 8.1) is the way that they take large pakages (such as KDE) and put all of the files in non-standard (according to KDE, I suppose) directories. There's no /opt/kde2, everything is dispersed around the system... /usr/share/kde2/lib, etc...

    While I suppose that this is the "right" way to do it in one sense, it makes adding in other KDE software (whether compiling or what not) very difficult.

    You've got to do some nasty configure black-magic like ./configure --prefix=/usr/blah --bindir=blah blah. Does it have to be this way??

    1. Re:I still don't like their packaging by garett_spencley · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The reason Mandrake does it that way is to be 100% compatible with Redhat. The idea is that you can install any redhat rpm on a mandrake machine.

      I don't agree with this but that's their explanation anyway.

      I really wish they would drop this whole redhat compatibility thing and just follow the LSB.IMO the more distros that follow the LSB the better. It's the best way that I can see to be "compatible" with other distros.

      In the beginning Mandrake was RH with bug fixes, toys and compiled specifically for i586. But it has since grown in to much more than that. Ever since 7.0 they've broken away from that whole "redhat++" thing and I think it's time for them to break this compatibility issue and start following a standards base rather than acheiving compatibility by following another non-standard distro.

      It just doesn't make much sense to me especially if the idea is to make Linux more consistent which seems to be part of what Mandrake is about.

      It's really quite ironic.

      P.S: And you know what the worst part about it is? Mandrake still installs a /etc/redhat-release file.

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  5. Re:Share your upgrade experiences by Junta · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is a good reason to have /home as a separate partition :) In any case, backing up home is easy if you have a place to stick the tarball.
    tar czvf home.tar.gz /home should give you a nice backup that preserves ownership and permissions to stick somehwere...
    Don't need a GUI for something that straightforward...

    I personally keep all data that I want persistant accross installs on non-root partitions: /opt, /home, and /usr/local are the key htings I keep around when I upgrade. I also have extra software installs and multimedia files, but I keep those on the file server, and there it is also kept separate from the partitions the distro gets to screw with (and on a RAID array).

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  6. Request for Mandrake 8.3 by brad3378 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I'd like to see a Wallet-sized rescue disk CD in the next boxed distro. Not sure how much cost it will add to the distro, but it seems like it would be inexpensive.

    Yes, I know of several root/boot rescue disks,
    but a disk made specifically for Mandrake might be more useful & user friendly.

    Floppies are unreliable, slow, and don't hold much.

    Include something like Symmantec Ghost for easy backups

    Include CDRW support and USB2/firewire support for those new external burners and hard-drives.

    Stupid idea? - I'd pay extra for it.
    What's everybody else think?

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  7. Mandrake in trouble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For all those saying how nice a product this is and how you are downloading the ISO's as you type, something to consider...

    Right on Mandrake's site is what I would call a plea, and what otehrs would call begging for money.

    "Mandrake Linux distribution's short-term future is in jeopardy due to a simple factor: money"

    So perhaps just this once people can go out and buy some CD's to help support this company and make sure there is another release in the future.

    I saw someone else say this earlier, but it got modded up to 2 as Funny... I don't know why buting the CD's to support a company in financial trouble is funny though.

  8. Re:StarOffice 6.0???? by Max+Threshold · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Uh, I think that's supposed to be OpenOffice. Oops.

  9. Why not? Subscribe to the Club, instead of buying by JM · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Of course, Mandrake needs the cash...

    But when you buy a box, specially in stores, there's only a small portion of your cash that goes to the developers. Manufacturing, packaging, shipping, support, distributor's and retailer's margins take the major part of the revenue.

    When you subscribe to the Club, you make sure the cash will be spent directly on the Mandrake Linux open-source development, you have access to all the software, including commercial applications, and a lot of Club privileges.

    Besides, the boxes won't be available until a few weeks, so join the club and you can download everything today.

  10. Re:P2P ISO Distribution by jilles · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We can do that for them. Just share it with your gnutella client and gnutella will do the rest. Just make sure that you have a client that supports some of the interesting new features (super peer, distributed downloads). Limewire does it all. If enough people share their isos, there'll be plenty of bandwidth

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  11. Re:Cached articles?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Do you think that Slashdot/VA could actually pay for the bandwidth that it would take to do this?
    Taco said that the majority of /. readers only read the front page. I would imagine that they read the linked stories as well. If Slashdot caches those linked stories, the bandwidth used would increase massively.
    It is hard to be "friendly" when it costs $$$$

  12. Join Mandrake Club instead by gnugnugnu · · Score: 2, Insightful
    So perhaps just this once people can go out and buy some CD's to help support this company and make sure there is a another release in the future.

    A noble sentiment, but if you want to really help then Join the Mandrake club.
    If you buy CD a lot of that money goes towards packaging distribution and marketing.

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    1. Re:Join Mandrake Club instead by Tsujigiri · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A noble sentiment, but if you want to really help then Join the Mandrake club.
      If you buy CD a lot of that money goes towards packaging distribution and marketing.


      True, but buying boxed editions has another positive effect. If lots of people buy the boxes, more stores will stock them, giving the distribution more visibility to people who have not used Linux yet, potentially getting more new users, producing more income. So there are benefits either way.

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  13. *Mirrors*? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Mirrors? "Download it from the mirrors"? Why is *that* your immediate reaction, you cheapskates? Buy the freaking distro or you won't have it any more!

  14. Re:Motd by linux_warp · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The important thing to reconize is that mandrake FUNDS the software they use in their distro. They fund many programmers to work full time on open source software. They are not a distro that just takes your money for themselves, they help the community.

    Doesnt anyone remember their donation to debian also?