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Alleged eBay Hacker Goofs up and Goes to Jail
juliao writes "SecurityFocus is reporting that alleged eBay hacker Jerome Heckenkamp was jailed after his first solo court appearance."
It's pretty funny actually, stuff like challenging the indictment on the
grounds that they typed his name in all capital letters, demanding to immediately testify (even tho they were only there to schedule the trial), threatening the judge and so on. He would know better if he watched a couple episodes of Law & Order. Note that I base all court proceedings on the wisdom of Sam Watterston.
I seriously doubt anyone is stupid enough to pull those kinda tricks when their mind is clear.
If you want to be seen, stand up. If you want to be heard, speak up. If you want to be respected, sit down and shut up.
Not only is it sad that this kid was able to get rid of his council (twice) .. but he is ovbiously either REALLY moronic ..
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or he is going for an insaniy plea
he did manage to menauver the judge into saying
"The comments that you are making to the court lead me to suspect that either you are playing games with the court, or you're experiencing a serious lack of judgment."
its only a hop skip and a jump from there to have the judge decide that he ALWAYS shows a lack of judgement, and its a medical condition.
he will have to take lithium forever, but at least he wont do hard time. (again)
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What a freaking dork.
After behaving like that, he deserves whatever he gets.
"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
What's the stupidest thing a person can do when placed under arrest? Not demand to talk to your lawyer or have one appointed. What's the stupidest thing you can do after that? Not allow your attorney to do his or her job.
/.ers--if you get arrested, keep your mouth shut unless you have your attorney beside you. Let them take care of everything. And no matter what, don't ever think that you can properly defend yourself in court--it's called being railroaded for a reason. This guy's about to get the maximum sentence possible when he really could have gotten off with a slap on the wrist. Dumb.
What is the very first thing that a rich, savy lawyer would do if he were arrested? Get the best darned attorney to represent him that he can afford. But why not represent himself, I mean--the accused is a lawyer, too. Well, when you're a defendant, your job is to help your attorney and keep yourself from doing stupid things like this kid has. It's your attorney's job to handle all the legal matters.
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I wish I had a tape of that day. *cringe*
Like any other situation in life where someone else holds your future in their hands, the key to it all is playing by their rules. Sure, you feel like a dweeb sucking up to some Judge for fifteen miniutes, but when those fifteen are up, you can go back to acting like an asshole, or a saint, or even (god forbid) somewhere in between. I'm sure this kid had his girfriend/friends/whoever out in the gallery, and he was just trying to act the badass so as to impress her/him/them. Didn't quite work out. One other thing that comes to mind . . . This is a kid we're talking about here, no? His Father sounds like he's doing his best to get this kid convicted. Never go to court without a lawyer. Keep your mouth shut except to say yessir or nosir. And play the game. It beats getting it in the rear for three or four years from some guy named Bubba. .
I hate the fucking system, But the system loves fucking me.
He only proves the one thing many people here know, that most hackers are idiots.
Hollywood is who convinces the public otherwise, showing hackers to be... computer experts, spyware experts, banking experts, encryption experts, wear designer clothing, able to run a 4second 40yard dash, and swoon woman like the latest Hollywood star.
The rest of know that most people who hack do so because they don't have the attention span to hold down real jobs, don't have the skills to interact with a team of people on a face to face basis, and couldn't get a date unless they had money.
Then again, maybe Hollywood is right, and only the dumb ones get caught.
* Winners compare their achievements to their goals, losers compare theirs to that of others.
In a telephone interview after the appearance, Heckenkamp's father, Thomas Heckenkamp, said his son is only trying to protect his rights . "They've overstepped their bounds, and they're keeping him from defending himself," he said.
What an idiot. My first thought was, "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree."
Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
Don't piss off Federal Judges. Municipal judges, maybe. State court judges, work real hard to be nice to 'em. Federal Judges - um, pretend they're God and remember you aren't.
Federal Judges are appointed by the President and approved by the senate. We have a lot of unfilled judgeships because it takes so long to put through the appointments. Congress, the President, the Supremes, the FBI, INS, and basically The Entire Federal Bureaucracy know many of their names personally and like to be in their good graces. They Get Things Done and they Dispense Justice to BAD GUYS.
I know, they probably eat cheesburgers and fart like the rest of us, but it's a very BAD thing to piss them off. These kind of courtroom stunts will get you put in small rooms with Bad Guys and your anatomy will never be the same.
"Don't play games with these guys! They can lock you up in a room and throw away the Room!" -Lithgow in 'Manhattan Project'.
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... that there are seven versions of every story in court.
And the only one that actually matters:
You know why judges find people guilty of contempt of court? It's because they can. If you or I could lock people up for contempt of us we'd need a heck of a lot more prisons. Dumb doesn't begin to sum this guy up. Perhaps he's trying to cop a diminished responsibility plea, or perhaps he genuinely doesn't understand that you don't kick the biggest kid in school in the pants then start reading the constitution at him.
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85 years is out of control,murder is 5 years
and what did he do , hack some companies
whoopee, a human life is far more important than a website of company, the people who have sentenced this guy should be in Jail for obstruction of justice
IANAP (I am not a psychiatrist) but Mr. Heckenkamp sounds like he is a schizophrenic, or like he is playing to sound like one. He is about the right age (22) for this disorder to become apparent. His intelligence and criminal behavior also fit the common model for schizophrenia.
I always took that to mean that the place in question was the forested moon belonging to the planet Endor. Just the kind of ambiguity to cause a mistrial.
-aiabx
Just this guy, you know?
Stop Prisoner Rape
Ah yes, rape as a just form of punishment for hacking.
America, America, God shed his grace on thee...
Why is rape tolerated, other than it's amusing for good citizens to think about?
I mean really, is it too much to have the right to not contract AIDS as a prison bonus?
Back on the thread, this kid was an idiot. But the punishment for being stupid shouldn't be rape. But it will be, won't it?
Usually when a computer enthusiast is ridiculed in the media, most people on Slashdot rush to defend them. Why is it different this time?
Becase, bluntly put, this guy is an idiot.
Mitnick got railroaded. But he kept his head, and didn't look like a moron.
Sklyarov got busted for breaking an immoral law, of which he was innocent.
This guy is a moron. He ditched one of the finest lawyers he could get, because she didn't "get it"
if I was innocent and my lawyer told me to plead guilty or go to jail, I'd start looking for new representation too.
Yeah, and what if you're guilty?
The lawyer basically said "they have you dead to rights - there is no way you can win this." He should have 'fessed up, instead of acting like a moron (trying to get out on a technicality - which is really an urban myth - qualifies him as a moron.)
Some might say reality is imposing itself on the minority group that hold these outlandish beliefs, and its just the majority group that is pointing it out.
Belief in the absurd doesn't make it true.
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