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Codeweavers' CrossOver Plugin Reviewed
Grok writes: "CodeWeavers' CrossOver Plugin allows Linux users to use software and browser plugins that where once only avaliable on Windows. Version 1.0 was released in late August 2001 to much media furvor, while the release of version 1.1 arrived without much fanfare. Despite the lack of attention by the news media, the new version of CrossOver is a more exciting release than the orginal. The reason? Microsoft Media Player Support. Finally, every major plugin on the internet, along with several obscure ones, are now supported under Linux. (Full Story)"
This is a good thing here. It allows Linux users to more fully collaberate with business users and will probably help make some headway into the desktop arena. That is what we want, isn't it?
Once video codecs become a commodity item, the user begins to ignore them and decides which player to use based on quality. If this plugin can provide the features we all want along with the stability we're all accustomed to, the shores of Microsoft just eroded that minute bit more.
Now, if I could just get both SolidWorks and Autocad in linux...
You can't legislate goodness. Let each to his own destiny, by will of his freely made choices.
This would be an ideal legal challenge for the FSF to undertake. Interoperability is something they've been convicted on; using their monopoly to illegally prevent and stifle competition by decreasing the competitions ability to provide interoperability. This would actually be a relatively simple legal battle, seeing as many of the facts of the case have already been established in the federal antitrust case. On top of this, another lawsuit filed by MS to stifle the competition would simply raise the eyebrows of current states who are making huge compromises with the settlement.
The only complication I can see here is the absence of Digital Rights Management, probably not present in the plugin. Not that this is a big deal, but it might mean something to Microsoft. And I agree, Real sucks fatty.
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it's early - or late - re-read the article after coffee/sleep and you'll see that it addresses QT: standalone is flaky, embedded rocks, and it's "just like Windows" version to the reviewer.
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Forget WMA's - I don't see widespread take up of these anywhere. However, WMV is a big thing. The quality of those compared to the download size is very high.
I have a couple of videos on my site (http://www.eruvia.org) in MPG format to make sure everyone can see them. I'd rather use WMV however, because my testing showed that the quality/file size trade-off was better. I'd be pleased to see these under Linux.
Cheers,
Ian
The crossover plugin (and the WINE installation that you get with it) is great. I bought it as a company expense so that I could view documents in proprietary Microsoft formats that I need to do for my job - and I don't see why Microsoft should be rewarded for polluting the world with proprietary formats. I'd rather money went towards the development of WINE.
But what worries me is that now I can view all those whizzy Sorensen encoded QuickTime movies without worrying about it, I am actually reinforcing the view that these formats are good - by increasing the download figures for them.
I guess I really should compose some standard email to send to sites that publish stuff in proprietary formats - but it's often difficult to even find an address to send stuff too, and when you do you don't usually get any kind of response.
#exclude <ms/windows.h>
I love this idea.
The use of free software such as Windows Media Player and such makes it funny because what is Microsoft's defense?
Do they say to use their free Windows software such as WMP you need Windows? I've been trying to make this point since the trial started. The OS is the bundleware stupid! It's that tax you pay to stay under the MS umbrella of products.
Get your Unix fortune now!
I have used CrossOver since v 1.0 and it is really good. First of all, the installation is very simple and it let's you download the latest codecs of say QuickTime (that's what I mainly use it for) so you always get the latest versions installed. It nicely installs the browser plugins and let's you enable them for individual browsers on your system.
It also creates nice Gnome/KDE shortcuts to launch the QuickTime player.
One could use normal Wine to watch QuickTime in the player, but I gladly pay the extra $20 to get the browser plugin.
Conclusion, very nice product worth paying for. But wouldn't it be even nicer if we could play Quicktime/Windows Media movies with a native library instead?
Ciryon
WINE isn't an IBM product. It isn't being sold at twice the cost of the MS product (rather the opposite, in fact). OS/2's problem wasn't that Windows ran Windows programs better (it didn't) it was that IBM sold it at retail for $250 when Win+DOS was less than $100. IBM's sales force couldn't have sold space heaters in Point Barrow Alaska. IBM killed OS/2. MS just let them.
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It is a bad idea to make any of the content of your site only accessible via a plug-in, sure this software increases the number of systems that a plugin can use, but why bother? Why not create and encourage useful websites that don't need them?
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I've been using the Crossover plugin for about three months now, and it never ceases to amaze me quite how well it works.
One of the things that was not mentioned in the review was that the 1.1 version of the plugin also officially supports Chime - a plugin for viewing proteins and molecular structures - perfectly. (version 1.0 could run chime after a bit of hacking, but did occasionally crash).
For people working in Bio/Cheminformatics, this is a genuine boon, as the plugin traditionally only supports Windows and Mac. All of a sudden, you don't need to use citrix (or whatever!) to view molecules in mozilla on your linux box! It's the best $25 I've spent in a long time. 8)
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While it's great that Codeweavers has managed to get enough of WINE working to support Windows Media Player, it's still a very bad idea for us to use it. Here's why.
Every time you click on a Windows Media file, you are sending a message to the site operator which basically says "I support Microsoft's efforts to monopolize digital media." You're voting with your mouse.
Right now, in most places we still have a choice of formats: Windows Media, Real, streaming MP3, whatever. If everyone just mindlessly chooses the Windows Media formats without a second thought, site operators are going to look at their logs and say "well, nobody is using the Real/MP3/whatever formats, so let's just start webcasting exclusively in Windows Media format." Do you want that to happen? I sure don't. We cannot afford to let Microsoft monopolize this market. Think of the ramifications of Microsoft having a 100 percent lock on digital content. Digital Rights Management? Easy... just put it in Windows Media. Region lockouts? Put it in Windows Media. Want to work around those problems? Sorry, you can't, because digital media is Windows Media and you don't have any other choice!
Let's not forget that even though Windows Media Player may now run on Linux, you'll never see a Linux distribution that includes it, because the Crossover Plugin is not free, and Microsoft's licenses prevent WMP from appearing on Linux CD's.
Great technology, bad way to use it. As Linux users we must keep on clicking on those non-Microsoft formats, and politely asking site operators to maintain or add media in non-Microsoft formats. Let's not succumb to the urge to satisfy short-term viewing/listening needs at the expense of sacrificing long-term interoperability.
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