SedSokoban

rsd writes: "Have you ever thought that sed is too limited and only useful to Regular Expression scripts? Well, verde666, who works for Conectiva, proved that it can be used for games too. He wrote a sokoban game named sedsokoban with sed. There is even a screenshot."

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Slashcode's HTML vs. Microsoft HTML

[Anonymous Coward]

Introduction

Recently there has been some controversy over Slashdot's apparent disregard for browsers other than Konqueror or Netscape (*cough* IE *cough) ability to render the page, and some unfortunate crapfloods which would appear differently in different browsers.

The "editors" (I use the term loosely) of Slashdot appear to believe that Slashcode generates perfect HTML which any browser should render correctly, else the browser must be "buggy".

Slashcode's HTML Output

Just curious, I tried running the front page of Slashdot through the W3 validator to test this claim. The results were shocking.

Lets stick to the facts and drill down into the numbers. The W3 validator found HUNDREDS of errors on the very first page of Slashdot that you view every day. It terminated with the simple line Sorry, this document does not validate as HTML 3.2..

So, what is broken? Is it IE? Or is it the amateur garage-style open source code which is at fault? You be the judge.

Apparently, Slashcode follows the open source coding and testing ethic of "it worked for me". It's just too much to ask them to try to test their code for conformance and compliance, or even just try it on a variety of platforms.

Microsoft's HTML Output

Still curious, I tried running msn.com and microsoft.com through the validator. I was totally taken aback when the validator reported ZERO ERRORS in *either* of these pages.

Conculsion

1. It may benefit the coders to attempt to adapt to some kind of acceptable process for designing, writing, and testing their own code. Perhaps some professional experience would be beneficial here. Certainly an accountability for certain quality standards must be implemented.

2. Perhaps Slashdot should consider switching to IIS 5.0 or .NET server and rewriting their code using a stable, reliable platform like Visual C++ or .NET. Perhaps only then will the browser compatbility issues will be resolved.

These are just suggestions. I am here to help.

Re:Slashcode's HTML vs. Microsoft HTML

[gilroy]

Blockquoth the poster:

Still curious, I tried running msn.com and microsoft.com through the validator. I was totally taken aback when the validator reported ZERO ERRORS in *either* of these pages.

Interesting. When I tried "www.microsoft.com", I received the much more alarming

Fatal Error: no document type declaration; will parse without validation
I could not parse this document, because it uses a public identifier that is not in my catalog.
You should make the first line of your HTML document a DOCTYPE declaration, for example, for a typical HTML 4.01 document:

It seems to me that "fatal error" is a lot worse than a bunch of formatting tags that don't parse. Of course, this is Microsoft, where "fatal error" is better known as "standard operating procedure". :)

Oh, by the way, the page choked on both Opera and IE, so it's not a browser thing. And it choked on "microsoft.com", too. On the other hand, "msn.com" only produced 19 errors, of essentially the same type as "slashdot.org".

All I want to know is...

[danny256]

how long until we see that text based quake 3 on the sed!