Battle Creek, Michigan Settles Dispute with ORBZ
Peter Sachs, Esq. writes: "According to a press release that now appears on its official website, the City of Battle Creek, Michigan has 'settled"' its dispute with ORBZ.ORG. The City concluded that ORBZ.ORG had no criminal intent to cause the City harm by testing the 'open relay' status its server. In fact, the Assistant to the City Manager said, '...we recognize that [ORBZ.ORG] has done us a service. We are going to be taking a close look at our policies regarding Lotus security updates and how we can avoid the issue in general'"
Nope. Read Ian's message. He said that he wasn't closing ORBZ because of *this* case. He was closing it because of the subsequent cases.
-russ
Don't piss off The Angry Economist
The defect was fixed in version 5.0.9 and Lotus has moved on with version 5.0.10 being released soon. Many people as of yet have not upgraded their servers, leaving ORBZ open to similar actions if they stumble accross other Domino servers that are running older software and whose owners might be more litigious.
So ORBZ isn't out of the woods yet.
That is all.
From the press release by Michelle Reen, Assistant to the City Manager, Battle Creek, Michigan:
This analogy is flawed. Here's why:
Shooting people is something where, if a vest is not worn, can be expected to cause serious injury or death. Even if a vest is worn, the outcome can be injury, and death has been known to happen.
A more accurate analogy would be tapping someone on the shoulder to see if they are alive. But you don't expect that one in tens of thousands happens to have a very sore shoulder, and this tapping causes great pain.
My analogy is more correct because the kinds of tests ORBZ does is not one where a reasonable person doing this kind of activity (reasonable in this case meaning someone who understands the SMTP protocol, and related standards like RFC822, TCP, etc) would expect to cause serious problems. At most, this should trigger an alarm in more secure servers, which can then be filtered for this known testing source. ORBZ is not including codes intended to damage or destroy computer systems in these tests just to see if they would be destroyed (as Ms. Reen's analogy would suggest).
It seems to me that the city of Battle Creek perhaps acted a bit hasty in the way they reacted. I'm not saying that they shouldn't have the police involved in the investigation, and I'm not saying they shouldn't pursue acquiring information to further that investigation. However, such an investigation should be tempered by the understanding that defective software, especially that which has not been properly maintained, or properly configured, can, and very frequently does, fail on account of that defect simply as the result of a properly formed standards defined computer or network activity. We all know PC systems (especaily, but not exclusively, Windows) can fail at times even though only normal activity is taking place. Just because an activity can come from outside, from the internet, does not mean that it can only be malicious.
I recommend the City of Battle Creek Michigan, and any other government or business in like circumstances, operate under the following suggestions:
Also, get the reverse DNS fixed on your mail server.
now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
Not so fast there Bucko... From the press release: "Spam refers to a computer prank that causes multiple duplicate emails, sometimes several hundred at once, to clog up the recipient's mail server."
Seems to me like they still have a few things to learn...
Having more knowledge here of what went on than you, please trust me. In my opinion, this 'settlement' wouldn't have been nearly as forthcoming if a certain Wired.com article didn't cause major embarassment. I believe that this 'settlement' is much more public relations damage control than an actual realization that a mistake was made.
We used ordb.org and while it did block a significant amount of spam, it also seemed to block a considerable number of our clients (we service healthcare companies and I won't speculate about what this says about their IS/IT groups). The last straw was when it added a major ISP's email server (which probably did need fixing but we nonetheless couldn't afford the downtime). Of late, I've quit using blacklists in favor of simply blocking offending netblocks which has actually yielded better results with less grief. This works because most of the offending netblocks are not something that we'd be expecting legitimate email from.
I understand that Kellogg's has nothing to do with the stupidity of the city,
... And you've no idea what it's like when the sickly sweet smell of Sugar Frosted Flakes or Sugar Pops floats over the city like the sugar hangover from hell. Sour, sweet and totally nauseating.
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HAH!! I grew up in the town! You have NO idea how wrong you are about that. They ran the town so effectively that they blackmailed a surrounding township to merge with the city and then had the city tear down several blocks of downtown for a research center and a high class hotel that wouldn't make visiting VIPs feel like they were in No-Tell Motel Hell. Millions in taxpayer money went to this while the surrounding neighborhoods turned into run down rat infested crack houses. Eventually, Kellogg's laid off so many people that they've lost some of their influence.
but they're the biggest taxpayer/employer in Battle Creek, and that's close enough for me.
Actually, Nippondenso and Battle Creek Health Systems are bigger nowadays. Also, you should know that Post and Ralston Purina have factories there.
As far as a boycott goes, I've been doing that ever since the day I saw how corn flakes were actually made
The Battle Creek Police would be ill equipped to investigate a case like this. They have more trouble than they can handle in that town as it is.
Don't be too tough on BC - hell, they JUST got cable modem service two months ago and the geek population is just about zero as the few who grew up there either moved out or got buried under a football field somewhere by the team
Do you know how pathetic the place is? They have an army base named after Gen. Custer. Need I say more?
I love living in Kalamazoo