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Usenet Encoding: yEnc
Motor writes "Anyone remotely interested in usenet binary newsgroups must have noticed the spread of yEnc. yEnc is an encoding scheme for usenet binaries which avoids the enormous (30-40%) bloat associated with the schemes currently in use - which all have to produce 7-bit data to stop ancient newsservers from choking. A good thing, surely? Well, not according to some people. The guy has some good points about yEnc and standards, but I can't help thinking that "standards" people have endlessly discussed better encoding schemes, and nothing has come out of it. yEnc may not be perfect, but it works and it's here - hence the rapid adoption. What do you think?"
Close your web browser, shut down your fucking linux "b0x" and go outside for once in your life.
I think the fact that a site like sla$hdot, which caters to you fucking nerds out there, can't even survive without having to charge you for reading it, says alot about how much you fucks are worth to the rest of the world: ZERO.
This should serve as a wakeup call to all you nerds out there who think that working on your b0x in your one bedroom apartment, posting useless shit to a useless web site like sla$hdot and reading about the newest version of OpenBSD that can run on your fucking Dreamcast console is a good way to go through life.
So wake the fuck up and DO something productive, something that makes money. Stop wasting your time talking about open source fucking garbage that will never amount to anything useful.
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yumm. Tastes like CmdrTaco's semen!
Look, the guy makes some good points about the technical flaws. And maybe he's right, and I'm looking forward to his (or someone's) better ideas.
But I get annoyed with people who live in the past and think that "if it's good enough before, it's good enough now. <patronize>Maybe someday we'll do something better</patronize>"
As an example, I post HTML to Usenet. Intentionally. And I will continue to do so. The green-screen luddites need to stop whining and upgrade their newsreaders. Yes, ASCII newsreaders can strip out (or render to some degree) the HTML. And no, I don't care about the extra bandwidth. There's a reason that newspapers and magazines use italics, boldface and bullet lists.
Death to the luddites!
Sometimes it's best to just let stupid people be stupid.
earlier this week, Attorney General John Ashcroft announced that hundreds of pedopheliacs and child porn perverts using the yahoo "Candy Man" discussion forum. Since then, John Katz has not posted any articles. Coincidence?
What is slashdot hiding?
UUencode rules!
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And that brings me to my point: yEnc sucks. yEnc is a horrible standard. Just like uuencode, it forces you to track down all 56 posts that constitute the 1337 warez release or all 7 posts of your kiddie porn movie. yEnc discourages binaries traffic, and that is a good thing for intellectual property protection. We don't need a heavy-handed government or "BSA" to police us - with people like the yEnc author around, we can show the software companies that we are responsible enough to make it a pain in the ass to pirate software. And that is all they could ask from us.
I should be at your mom's house fucking her up but instead I'm sitting here posting to slashdot. Oh well back to my pathetic life.
You are clearly wrong.
Er, betamax, anybody?
And I say, er, Microsoft, anybody?...
If everyone is as anal as the poster of this story and cares about elegance and "pretty code" and whatnot, we all would not be using a x86 processor because its architecture is just "sooo damn ugly!!". Get over it. If it works, it works, does it really matter how anything is implemented if it does its job just perfectly fine?
:) Real life is not pretty, deal with it... stop living in fantasy world.
Personally, I will adopt anything that will make my life (not the developer's life) easier. yenc allows me to download 30-40% less, so I use it. Why? because if I don't use it, I won't be able to obtain the mp3s, the games, the warez, the pr0n, etc, etc, etc that I wanted
Because binary newsgroups themselves are a fundamentally stupid and bad idea, which do nothing but damage the discussion medium. Usenet isn't designed for binary distribution, and it's not good at it. A real solution would involve getting away from usenet entirely.
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I'm a pretty active Usenet poster and binary downloader, and let me assure any of you who are riding the fence on this that yEnc *is* much, much faster. It is light years ahead of uuencoded binaries, and the coolest thing since .PAR to hit Usenet.
Whatever kind of "transition period" Mr. Nixon is referring to has already passed. Let me just cry a freaking river for the poor programmers who have to update their code to accommodate the changing spec--it seems that the most popular usenet progs have *already* done this. If "Joe's Special Shareware Usenet Posting and Spyware Program" needs to be updated so that its 7 users can stay happy, then so be it.
Whatever kind of "confusion" this guy is referring to is nonexistent. yEnc downloading and decoding with the right software is as transparent as uudecoding. Promise. People don't have to relearn anything.
I read Mr. Nixon's "I invented better binary posting, but didn't rush to claim credit" anecdote and can't even force myself to care. Sounds like sour grapes to me.
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Nothing to see here, go back to downloading pr0n now.
Thats why it is fucking funny. Get back on the fucking short bus.
I'm a loner Dottie, a Rebel.