Apple Cuts Off Under-18 Darwin Developer
Crispyking writes "Finlay Dobbie has been a leading contributor to the Darwin project, most notably
helping track down the infamous PPP-hang bug. He's been nominated to become a Darwin contributor (which comes with limited check-in privileges) but when going through the process, Apple found out he's under 18 years old, and not only refused to let him be a contributor to this 'open source' project, but canceled his
Apple Developer Connection membership (which gives him download access to the source code) on the grounds that because he's under 18, he can't be legally bound to the small-print agreement." Update: 03/26 00:26 GMT by P : Finlay wrote in email that he wasn't getting the Darwin source through his ADC account, but through a third party development project, which he resigned from as a result of all the red tape and the ADC account being disabled.
I know that you linux zealots will flame this post but I don't care, you will prove me right as usual.
1. Linux installation sucks when you don't have the latest hardware.
I had to recompile the kernel for that stupid ISA Ethernet card to be seen by Redhad.
2. Startup trouble shooting sucks it is cryptic compared to windows and others.
3. Applications are rare, I cannot find lots of things that I enjoy on Windows.
I don't want to play games on Linux.
4. Sendmail sucks.
Any mail server on Windows even the freeware ones are as easy as 123 to configure without the scripting bullshit of send mail and compiling it again to support new modules.
5. Applications and user interface are so amatuerish that it is not funny at all.
6. No proper support for USB, it is still a hack and cannot have support to most of the USB hardware that I have.
7. Smaba sucks, installing it and configuring it takes hours.
8. The Whole attitude of the linux users proves that it is a plague, no help, no asistance, everyone is using it just to show off, just bunch of high school zealots with computers.
9. Javas support sucks.
10. No decent browser.
No I'm not willing to pay $49.99 for Opera, I have Internet Explorer on my Windows box and it is fantastic.
11. No decent account and home fininance package.
I could go on forever on this.
For servers it may be OK, but who cares, us home users don't need it, never will.
The head of the Galactic Confederation (76 planets around larger stars visible from here) (founded 95,000,000 yrs ago, very space opera) solved overpopulation (250 billion or so per planet) -- 178 billion average) by mass implanting. He caused people to be brought to Teegeeack (Earth) and put an H Bomb on the principal volcanoes (Incident 2) and then the Pacific area ones were taken in boxes to Hawaii and the Atlantic Area ones to Las Palmas and there "packaged." His name was Xenu. He used renegades. Various misleading data by means of circuits etc. were placed in the implants. When through with his crime Loyal Officers (to the people) captured him after 6 years of battle and put him in an electronic mountain trap where he still is. "They" are gone. The place (Confed.) has since been a desert.
Maybe if the coder's parents signed, it would work. Also, certain states allow "removal of restrictions of nonage." This allows a minor to become a legal adult. In Florida, it just requires you to take your kid to the court house and sign some forms.
There must be some solution of ther than simply kicking the coder off the team. I didn't join ADC when I was under age, but I did write plenty of Mac programs. I don't see how throwing away young talent is a sound business practice.
t'nera semordnilap
"I think megahertz and gigahertz are really the only way of accurately assessing what you're buying, because it's a clear measure in terms of processor performance and it clearly states to the consumer what they're getting for their money. I don't think the chip architectures are that different. I think whatever you do with your processor the clock speed is still one of the defining measurements of chip performance, and once you put the chip into a PC, there are so many other factors that can affect the performance of the system, that coming back to gigahertz as being the key measurement is key. If you look at where we're going over the next year, we're going to be announcing faster chip speeds. We think that the core of the Pentium four processor as it is today, could scale up to ten gigahertz over the next five to ten years."
The head of the Galactic Federation (76 planets around
larger stars visible from here) (founded 5,000,000 years
ago, very space opera) solved overpopulation (250 billion
or so per planet, 178 billion on average) by mass
implanting. He caused people to be brought to Teegeeack
(Earth) and put an H-Bomb on the principal volcanos
(Incident II) and then the Pacific area ones were taken in
boxes to Hawaii and the Atlantic area ones to Las Palmas
and there "packaged".
His name was Xenu. He used renegades. Various misleading
data by means of circuits etc. was placed in the implants.
When through with his crime loyal officers (to the people)
captured him after six years of battle and put him in an
electronic mountain trap where he still is. "They" are gone.
The place (Confederation) has since been a desert. The length
and brutality of it all was such that this Confederation
never recovered. The implant is calculated to kill (by
pneumonia etc) anyone who attempts to solve it. This
liability has been dispensed with by my tech development.
One can freewheel through the implant and die unless it is
approached as precisely outlined. The "freewheel" (auto-
running on and on) lasts too long, denies sleep etc and one
dies. So be careful to do only Incidents I and II as given
and not plow around and fail to complete one thetan at a
time.
In December 1967 I knew someone had to take the plunge. I did
and emerged very knocked out, but alive. Probably the only
one ever to do so in 75,000,000 years. I have all the data
now, but only that given here is needful.
One's body is a mass of individual thetans stuck to oneself
or to the body.
One has to clean them off by running incident II and Incident
I. It is a long job, requiring care, patience and good
auditing. You are running beings. They respond like any
preclear. Some large, some small.
Thetans believed they were one. This is the primary
error. Good luck.
He's a UKer...
Which means, with the legal buying beer in [pubs|shops] age of 18, and considering how those ages are enforced over here, he should be able to drink in 2, maybe 3 days time :D
tlhf
xxx
Or maybe he could just ask his parents to buy it for him, it's legal from 5+ (I think) to drink over here with your parents consent.
There are those folks who exist that are simply too stupid to run a Unix-like operating system
My friends, co-workers, and I refer to these individuals those who suffer from TSTR*, or Too Stupid To Run *nix.
Do YOU know anyone suffering from this? If so, please make a note of it.
oh bad, bad stupid Dobbie!
DO NOT DISTURB THE SE
Bzzt! Wrong. See Seth Finkelstein's excellent analysis of the phrase, which states:
Few people are unfamiliar with the phrase The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers. Rueful, mocking, it often expresses the ordinary person's frustration with the arcana and complexity of law. Sometimes it's known that the saying comes from one of Shakespeare's plays, but usually there's little awareness beyond that. This gap in knowledge has inspired a myth of "correction", where it is "explained" that this is line really intended as a praise of the lawyer's role.
[snip]
As long as there are lawyers, there will be "lawyer jokes". And lawyers will show how those jokes ring true by trying to explain how such lampooning really constitutes praise for their profession, thus by example justifying the jokes more than ever.
Not trolling, just informing...
For those who are lacking context, Dobbie is a Terry Goodkind reference.
Jouster
OT but I just want to say that I like the Aqua interface that /. gives to apple stories the best and would like to pick that as the default theme for my personal viewing pleasure? can I do this - or does it require a subscription ;)
What an evil person. He needs a throbbing negro cock rammed down his throat to teach him to respect the law and corporate wishes. Evil, truly EVIL. This kid should be put on the AXIS OF EVIL list.
GOD BLESS AMERICA
-John Ashcroft
This just goes to show that Apple does not want to be free. The only future "rights" that can be protected this way, is for Apple to keep you from:
Using your software as you see fit.
Changing your software to suit your needs.
Sharing your improvements with your friends.
Allowing your friends all the above rights.
Don't tell me that this was not HIS software, but was Apple's. He was writing it, it was his as well as others. As with most non-free software interests, Apple locked our friend out of his work.
Why do people appologize and defend such obviously ugly behavior? Once again, the downsides of non-free development are made manifest. What were the benifits? That more people would use your code thanks to Apple's marketing department? That Apple would better control quality? That Apple's co-operation with other non-free software and hardware vendors would make sure that users of your code could use hardware not available to others? That you would have to give Apple money to have your software back? As you help Apple to deny other's rights you make them stronger and more able to do things like this to you. If you consider such impositions "protecting future rights", you are really warped.
DMCA, Hollings, Palladium. What might have sounded like paranoia is now common sense.