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Red Hat CTO Testifies at MS trial

An anonymous reader writes "Red Hat CTO Michael Tiemann testified on behalf of the 9 states in MS's trial. From the article on SF Gate: "Red Hat Chief Technology Officer Michael Tiemann said Microsoft adds 'extensions' to critical communications methods that computers use to transmit security information, print, and perform other tasks. Those extensions are proprietary to Microsoft, he said, and despite recent actions Microsoft has not been forthcoming in releasing details of those changes.""

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  1. What does rh have to do with this, really? by SCHecklerX · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    I'm sorry, but Redhat wasn't even a company, AFAIK, when Micro$oft did most of the things that they are on trial for (OEM stuff that killed OS/2, Be, etc. for example).

  2. wow by metalhed77 · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    wow, that never occured to me, thanks for stating the completely obvious.

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  3. Why Linux Sucks: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    I know that you linux zealots will flame this post but I don't care, you will prove me right as usual.

    1. Linux installation sucks when you don't have the latest hardware.
    I had to recompile the kernel for that stupid ISA Ethernet card to be seen by Redhad.

    2. Startup trouble shooting sucks it is cryptic compared to windows and others.

    3. Applications are rare, I cannot find lots of things that I enjoy on Windows.
    I don't want to play games on Linux.

    4. Sendmail sucks.

    Any mail server on Windows even the freeware ones are as easy as 123 to configure without the scripting bullshit of send mail and compiling it again to support new modules.

    5. Applications and user interface are so amatuerish that it is not funny at all.

    6. No proper support for USB, it is still a hack and cannot have support to most of the USB hardware that I have.

    7. Smaba sucks, installing it and configuring it takes hours.

    8. The Whole attitude of the linux users proves that it is a plague, no help, no asistance, everyone is using it just to show off, just bunch of high school zealots with computers.

    9. Javas support sucks.

    10. No decent browser.
    No I'm not willing to pay $49.99 for Opera, I have Internet Explorer on my Windows box and it is fantastic.

    11. No decent account and home fininance package.

    I could go on forever on this.

    For servers it may be OK, but who cares, us home users don't need it, never will.

    Flame on, linux zealots.
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    1. Re:Why Linux Sucks: by caspper69 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Amen Brother!

      No Admin in his right mind (Linux user or not) wants his clients running Linux. Hell, I have a hard enough time getting them to type "ipconfig /all | more" let alone actually doing something useful.

      It's human nature to pull for the underdog. I liked OS/2, I use Linux from time to time. But I am realistic about this whole thing. It's not my religion, and I don't need to spend 20 hours a day in front of my PC. I need to sit down, get some work done, then get on with my life. The day that Linux can match Windows in that regard is the day that Linux surpasses Windows. More power to them, but they're always facing an uphill climb. You must remember that MS has a LOT of programmers, and a lot of TALENTED programmers at that. In fact, I'm sure most of them are CS graduates. If only that were true with Linux.

  4. RedHat baby talk by sinserve · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Imagine this.

    The bully M$ is standing at a corner, wearing a tight T-shirt with pizza
    stains, and equally dirty shorts. His hands red with pizza sauce and ketchup.

    The poor boy RH gets called in by the Law. He is bitting his nails, shivering
    under his wet shirt.

    The_Law: "Come here RH, don't be afraid, tell us what did he do to you?"
    RH: [looks suspicously at the bully, afraid to utter a word he might regret]
    M$: [smiles with evil, knowing nothing more than a wrist slap will happen to him.]
    RH: He ... [burst into tears] he hit me, pulled my hair, took my pizza and [more cries]
    The_Law: [ANGERED] M$$$
    M$: [shocked]
    The_Law: Don't EVER do that again to RH, now go and play together.
    M$: [takes RH by the collar, and to the play ground]

    RH was last seen going down the slide, face first. M$ pushed him, rumor has it.

  5. Re:Fuck the subject!!! by rkhalloran · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    Having worked for NSCP during the time in question, the problem was that once Microsoft started giving away the browser, our corporate sales were fscked, which was leveraging the server line [i.e. long-term growth] development. Both our companies used to charge for the browser to corporate customers, remember? Of course, MS could afford to take the hit from bundling in IE [some of us do remember when it was a separate shrink-wrap item, Seth] since they were collecting royalties from all the OEMs for Windows. And those OEMs that thought about adding in Navigator got a visit threatening to revoke their OEM discounts; something about 'cutting off the air supply', I believe was the phrase?

    As far as "not buying the products", you tell me where to buy a Windows-free PC and I'll run there; oh wait, you guys are harassing white-box shops that do that, and you certainly won't be able to get one from the major companies like Compaq, HP, Dell, etc.

  6. Re:Dissenting states almost have it right... by sheldon · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    I agree that I would have liked to see documentation of file formats as part of the settlement in addition to the APIs.

    But doing that would require Microsoft's competitors to have to do work, so you can see why they didn't propose this to the dissenting states.

  7. Re:competition. by WildBeast · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    You said we don't need competition, yet Apple and Linux are in competition with UNIX.

    Ideas come out, it doesn't matter which environment they came out from. What matters is that they evolved thanks to capitalism. Ideas who don't have enough money thrown at them will eventually fade away and die. Look at OS/2.

    Hey, you don't like capitalism go to Cuba. Fidel Kastro will welcome you personally.