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Palm Releases Desktop 4 for Mac

AnamanFan writes "MacNN reports that Palm has released the final golden version of the Palm Desktop 4 with features such as improved synchronization, privacy, vCard, vCal, and most importantly, Mac OS X native. A Mac OS 9 version also available. Japanese, French, Italian, German, and Spanish versions are available, but only as betas." Note, however, that most conduits need to be updated to work with version 4, so for now you can't use Vindigo or AvantGo with the new version. For now, I am sticking with the old version.

31 comments

  1. Link to source code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can someone post a link to where i can download the source code from, im having trouble loadign the site.

    trolled

    1. Re:Link to source code by gvsu_snow_lord · · Score: 1, Informative

      you mean binary code? Someone posted the "direct" url over at osx.macn.com (http://palm-heva.www.conxion.com/PalmDesktopMac40 ENG.si)

  2. and why is this a slashdot headline story? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't want to read what should be a VersionTracker post on Slashdot. A Palm development kit release for Linux is news. Mac client software that was due six months ago is NOT newsworthy pudge.

    1. Re:and why is this a slashdot headline story? by foobar104 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A Palm development kit release for Linux is news. Mac client software that was due six months ago is NOT newsworthy pudge.

      Oh, so Slashdot is a Linux-only club now? Pfeh. The folks that run the site found it worthy to create an Apple section. Posting news of new software releases-- especially long-awaited ones-- is entirely justified.

      If you don't like it, don't bloody click on it.

  3. Data Corruption by ek_adam · · Score: 3, Informative

    I hope they fixed the data corruption problems that the beta had. About half a dozen times over the past few months my desktop data file would not open, and had to be deleted and restored from backup.

    1. Re:Data Corruption by derch · · Score: 4, Informative

      There's a work around I found for this.

      When you can't open your regular data file, create a new one, then merge the old in with the File->Merge command.

      But, yah, hopefully the bug is fixed.

    2. Re:Data Corruption by ek_adam · · Score: 1

      Yes, but then I have to reset all my preferences in the new file. It was less work just to do a "Save As" every couple of days and then when I had a corrupted file, copy the backup and overwrite the bad file.

    3. Re:Data Corruption by word+munger · · Score: 1

      Seems to have fixed the problem on my computer. Not that I'm an expert or anything, but I'm glad it works now.

    4. Re:Data Corruption by davidj · · Score: 1

      It's working for me now as well. That was an *awful* problem.

    5. Re:Data Corruption by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 3, Informative

      It appears it does - I tried it out, and my Beta was already corrupted.

      Sync has worked just fine so far.

  4. Doesn't work with NFS home directories... by surajrai · · Score: 3, Informative

    This release does not work on NFS exported home directories. There has been long discussions on this subject but it seems Palm doesn't care.

    S.r.

  5. 6 replies? You'd think this was a Katz story!!! by heldlikesound · · Score: 1, Troll

    That's right, a Katz story!

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    1. Re:6 replies? You'd think this was a Katz story!!! by @madeus · · Score: 2

      Just to prove my point, someone modded me down.

      YOU SHOULD SPEND MORE POINTS MODDING PEOPLE UP OR THE SYSTEM DOESN'T WORK.

      By all means mod troll's down, but by modding post like this down when you could be modding *good* post up, then you are breaking the entire system. *Think!*

      **Good Grief**

    2. Re:6 replies? You'd think this was a Katz story!!! by @madeus · · Score: 1

      To the person who marked the above post a Troll - WTF?

      How, in the name of all that's holy is that a Troll? Are you paranoid and do you think that *everything* is a Troll? Do you have a mental condition or have you just let your 2 year old bash randomly on the keyboard again?

      [ The lyric "Got to keep the lonies on the path" springs to mind. ]

      Hmm, here's an idea, I'd love to be able to see all the people that have modded a given post and be able to ignore their moderation of I decide they can't moderate their way out of a paper bag (because presuably they are doing bad moderating on lots of posts, not just mine.)

      Would be very expensive on CPU time (bearing in mind the size of the /. userbase), but I'd pay for that feature :)

  6. Clie? by pretoris · · Score: 1

    Anyone know if this'll work a Sony Clie? I'm looking at getting one but I only use my windoze boxen for games, my Mac is for important stuff like this =)

    1. Re:Clie? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope. Does not work in OSX. You need software monikered "The Missing Link". It allows for the emulatin of the "USBSwitcher" functionality present in the x86 software product line for the Clie to operate on OS9.

    2. Re:Clie? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am using it with my s320, but I am under the understanding that it does not work with some of the Clies'. It is working fine for me.

    3. Re:Clie? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually it works great with the new clie T415/T615 via USB with no special drivers. However, the many of the other models do not work via USB (including 710/610), but do work via Infrared on PowerBooks. Hopefully MarkSpace will have an OS X driver for USB on these older models soon.

    4. Re:Clie? by Tug3 · · Score: 1

      I cannot think of why not? Specially if the Clie you got has USB-cradle. Ive heard from several people using Handsprings that the Palm Desktop 4 works fine with their "unsupported" Visors.

      Now, this what I'm about to write next is NOT a fact, but some hearsay that I couldn't yet verify:
      I heard that Steve Jobs used a Sony Clie to demo the Bluetooth for OS X at Tokyo. Please, if anyone can verify this - or correct me if this is not true - please do so, now!

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  7. Entourage support? by sg3000 · · Score: 3, Informative

    So, has Microsoft said anything about conduit support for Palm PDAs? My Palm V is just gathering dust waiting for Entourage X synchronication.

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    1. Re:Entourage support? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could try this:

      http://www.queuesoft.jp/download-e.html

      I'm about to install it myself.

    2. Re:Entourage support? by speechpoet · · Score: 2, Funny

      According to this post, the conduit's coming sometime in... take a deep breath... June.

      Yeah. June. Anyone care to bet which will ship first -- the conduit or Photoshop?

  8. Address book. by saintlupus · · Score: 2

    I'm downloading this (slowly) in another window - does anyone know if this includes a conduit for Apple's Address Book app, or if there's one available from the Apple site? Would be nice to have an updated list for Mail.app...

    --saint

    1. Re:Address book. by mattscape · · Score: 1

      try this perl script. no nead for Terminal !
      http://www.htvoon.freeserve.co.uk/mac

  9. Re:Entourage support by evil_roy · · Score: 2

    QueueSync works well. Just be sure to read the warnings in the docs. They're a good read anyway.

    eg " HotSync does the folder that the inside of the list box is chosen"

    Try the app and the docs make sense.

  10. still dont' work for me.. by Juanvaldes · · Score: 1
    The beta never worked for me so I'll forgive that but even the file does not sync my palm Vx!

    I use aa serial to USB converter which then goes into my mac, but it still does not sync.

  11. Serial to USB Converter by Cadre · · Score: 2
    I use aa serial to USB converter which then goes into my mac, but it still does not sync.

    Try unplugging and plugging the USB plug. I have the same setup and this usually fixes it whenever it won't sync.

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  12. Still doesn't work for me... by ellem · · Score: 1

    G4 400
    Belkin serial to USB
    Palm IIIx

    works fine with the OS9 v2.6x

    grrrr.

    any ideas

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  13. Handspring sez, don't use. by Niherlas · · Score: 2, Informative

    Handspring is recommending that Visor users refrain from using Palm's release of Desktop 4.0, mostly because Handspring hasn't done their own testing with the new software.

    However, it's working fine with my Visor Platinum. Just one gotcha - the Palm distribution tries to install update files (which, obviously, don't work on the Visor). The solution is to delete or rename the "PalmOS Updates" folder from the folder that the Palm Desktop application is stored in (it can't find the updates, so doesn't install 'em. Simple.)

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  14. And man is it rubbish. by davesag · · Score: 1
    My experience has been thus:
    1. Installed the new palm desktop into my TitG4 just fine. hooray.
    2. Went to synch my palmVx, previously only backed up via PalmCopy - thankyou palmCopy. Started the HotSynch and it found my Palm via IR and recognsied me as user. So far this is better than the beta.
    3. I went off to make some tea, came back at distress sound from my palm. The synch connection broke while trying to install some new OS upgrade.
    4. annoyed, I surfed about on /. and Mac/ to see if others had experienced the same probs. they had and advocated trashing the OS3.5.3 folder from the OS updates folder.
    5. I moved the offending system update and tried my synch again. No luck, the synch jammed up on trying to identify the user.
    6. so, having experienced this before with the beta I logged out and in again, then performed a synch. - voila, it worked and for the first time in almost a year the contact list on my mac is in synch with my palm - now if only I could simpyl synch palm desktop, address.app, ipod and palmVx in one go...
    7. not content, I updated some of the contact info via palm desktop and then went to resynch. - no luck as now it can't identify the user.
    8. so once again logged out, logged in and tried to resynch. same result - can't identify the user.
    9. so full reboot - try again - no luck.
    10. fiddle about, reboot, try again - no luck.
    11. give up in disgust and look for someone at palm to flame - no luck. the last person i spoke to at palm emphaticalyl told me that th emac was not supported and certainly not hotsynching via IR - idiots
    Does this accord with any other's experiences?

    • Here's what I want.
    • To synch my palm with my address books and ipod
    • A freeware OS independent shared calendar that works like an instant messenger that I can synch my palm with.
    • shared to-do lists
    • Oh hell, I want my Newton back

    dave

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