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AtheOS Fork Brings BeOS on Top of Linux
Eugenia writes: "Yup, Bill Hayden has forked AtheOS by using its app_server and Interface Kit (along with some other of its kits, like the filesystem layer) and ported it on top of the 2.4.x Linux kernel, without the need for X11. He already has the graphical environment working, and he also has some BeOS apps recompiled and working under Linux. Why BeOS applications? Because that was the reason of the fork. Exactly because AtheOS and BeOS have similar technical principles (highly multithreaded, truly preemptive, similar C++ API etc), by modifying AtheOS's API to match BeOS, Bill is trying to resurrect the BeOS. By doing so this way, Bill is already way ahead from the other two efforts to ressurect BeOS, OpenBeOS (dependant on the 'clean' NewOS kernel) and BlueOS (which depends on Linux and X11)."
Good because X11 is weak as hell
X11 cant do alpha channeling, scaling, or anything really, and its slow.
Its as good as Windows98 but its no OSX.
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Forget about linux on the desktop, my votes going to BeOS.
They got rid of X, bold but great move
I hope the Hurd GNU OS doesnt get stuck using X
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No one cares about network transparecy, thats a programmer network admin thing, honestly, your average user doesnt give a damn about it, the only reason thsat would matter, is if every electronics device in their house were hooked up to some main node which interfaces with them all, but we arent there yet so why worry about that.
Directfb has a much better interface, face it. Especially when we have stuff like Gforce5s
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Exactly, it wasnt designed for the desktp and trying to stuff an elephant inside a black box is not going to work.
Forget about that, start over, build someting for desktop users, keep X for corperate and server users who need that.
Fragment development, Gnome and KDE are actually competition and fueling development even more, and the developers supporting linux increases ever year, why have just one?
Server apps need server stuff, Desktop apps ned Desktop stuff, its kinda stupid to try to package server stuff to Desktop users then wonder why they complain.
Its funny how everyone says Linux will fail on the Desktop but its also funny to see almost 100 percent of the effort and development going into the server stuff, has Redhat spent any money on improving the desktop? hell no so what right do they have to say Linux can never work if they never tried? Same with IBM, Sun and all these other companies who rush to say Linux doesnt stand a chance in hell without giving a PENNY to the effort.
If Redhat were to buy Linux Mandrake right now, and instead of Eazel wasting 15 million dollars on a pathetic Window Manager they actually wrote an alternative to X and then let gnome developers port Gnome 2 to that.
If half these developers who claim Linux cant succeed actually tried working on the berlin project,, maybe linux would have a chance on the desktop.
The problem is, people using linux currently, the community, most of them are corperate users who work with Linux and who use it as a server.
As the trend changes thanks to people like Mandrake, Lycoris, Lindows, we will begin to see vast development efforts into DESKTOP features, because more people will be using linux as their primary desktop and not as a server.
When this happens, projects like the Berlin project, KDE, E17, and projects which dont exsist yet, will get developer support.
When we have 20-30 millioon Desktop linux users, and even if only half of them are programmers, we'd have alot of Desktop enhancements,
And this will be when redhat, IBM and others will change their minds and start saying how linux is going to be a success on the desktop and invest millions of dollars
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X exention? The same one which has been complete for almost a year that has no documentation and is too complicated to use?
Not to mention its slow as hell.
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Not everyone works in the computer industry. I mean we do, but not everyone. In fact most computer users dont, and a Desktop should be designed for them, not for us, if we want X we can use the corperate Redhat Linux or Debian.
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KDE is faster than Win98, but its slower than Win2k.
Its faster than XP, but XP has more special effects.
Win98 is sslow as hell, and crashes, KDE crashes once in a great while and its about the same speed, maybe alittle bit faster at very specific things.
2k is faster than KDE at everything.
KDE uses less than than all of these versions of windows, its slow because of X, not because of KDEs design, not because of bloat, because of X.
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