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Web Surfing Losing Its Luster

asv108 writes "The New York Times has an article about how trolling the web is not nearly as much fun as it used to be. Reasons for the decline cited in the article include: commercialization, lack of compelling content, instant messaging, P2P, and the fact that it's been mainstream for a couple of years now. The average online session decreased from 90 (March 2000) to 83 minutes in March of 2001." It'll be interesting to see where the Net fits in relative to TV and movies for pure entertainment.

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  1. Broadband by Zach+Garner · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm sure I've shaved off 7 minutes of online time by just having a faster connection...

    1. Re:Broadband by morgajel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      this is a very good point- I remember back in the day, during the days of gozilla and getright, staying connected over night, waiting for stuff to download(~1997, but I had a crappy phone company). I think that the commercialization is a big issue too. I use the web to get info, not to be sold stuff. I don't go to yahoo anymore because of their damn x10 ads. it's getting harder and harder to find interesting stuff- and as a grow older, I find I have less time/wanting to meander across the digital highway. ...which brings me to another interesting point- any chance that perhaps most netizens who came to the net are reaching the point of digital maturity? They know what they want, they know where to get it. they get it and get offline.

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    2. Re:Broadband by jafac · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or, it could be that people don't have as much free time to surf anymore because of the dip in the economy.

      When I surf - I'm doing either one of two things. Either I'm looking for something specific (in which case, the fact that Google and Broadband make the task much more quick is not insignificant) - OR, I'm just aimlessly surfing. But if I have to go to work, or something, then I won't spend as much time aimlessly surfing.

      Recession=on average, less money for more work for a given person; either that person has lost their job and is working another job or two at reduced salary, or that person narrowly escaped a RIF (Reduction In Force) or fears one, so that person is working harder to avoid being in the bottom 10%. Hence, they're not aimlessly surfing as much.

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  2. Time spent online by bribecka · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not sure a decrease from 90 to 83 minutes per session means that people don't find the internet as compelling. First off, I wonder how that relates to the average TV watching session?

    Second, people using the internet are more aware of how to find what they're looking for. Think just a few years back, comparing researching using AltaVista & Yahoo to using Google these days. Finding things faster lets you spend less time online.

    Finally, isn't it also possible that more people have faster connections now? In March 2000, probably 40% of the population was still on 33.6 modems, and only 5-10% had broadband. Just about everyone has 56K at least now, and a lot more have broadband than ever before. Faster connections mean you need less time to get the same amount done.

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  3. Just Decades Ago by 4of12 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When people went to their mailboxes expecting things like personal correspondence and the most annoying thing were the bills sent by creditors.

    Now, I spend almost 10 minutes a week culling spam from my post office box.

    The medium isn't fun any more.

    Likewise, while the total amount of content has gone up on the web, the ratio of spam to content has increased.

    One of the many without broadband at home, I can testify that waiting for advertising images to download over a 56k line has made web browsing a less frequent part of my life.

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  4. Part of a normal process... by ari{Dal} · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Now, I wasn't there for this, but I do recall a few stories of how, when TV first became a household item, people would watch constantly, even taking it into the dining room to watch during dinner.

    The novelty soon wore off, with the parental units now demanding that the tv be off during mealtimes (at least in my home), and that tv was for after homework.

    The same goes for the Net as an entertainment medium. While the use of the net for work (email, conferencing, etc) has increased steadily, the stats have been showing for quite some time that pure 'silly' surfing has declined. And after using a computer all day, every day for years during my work life, the LAST thing i want to do when I get home is sit in front of another computer screen.

    For me, I just got bored with the whole thing. Other than a few staples (like uffie and /.), unless something's relevent to me personally (local news for example), I'm just not interested in surfing the net for nonsense anymore. The sheer glut of porn and badly designed, useless sites has increased to an insane degree; the new sites i find that actually hold my interest for more than two clicks of a mouse are few and far between. Sure, it was fun when the net was new, but nowadays I'd sooner read a book.

    At one point I'd probably have qualified as an internet 'compulsive', chatting constantly, losing out on sleep and socializing cause I HAD to be on the net, surfing with one hand while typing frantically in chat rooms with the other... now I chat rarely (in 5 to 10 minute bursts every few days), and my morning surf lasts about 30 minutes tops as I check news and information sites for my fix. Things change, people evolve... personally, I see this as A Good Thing (tm). If i ever started slipping back into my old habits, i'd toss my computer straight onto the garbage heap.

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  5. Intelligence. by Hiro+Antagonist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Web-browsing used to being up a plethora of intelligent, well-written, interesting pages back in the days of the Internet being a largely academic arena. Now that everybody and their pet dingo are online, the quality of content has gone down dramatically; especially on unmoderated forums. Proper spelling and grammar have all but disappeared from the 'net, and only us "old timers" bother with things like netiquette.

    Sure, it's cute that Grandma can email her grandkids whenever she feels the need, but with that comes a thousand hastily-designed pages on Geocities, all alike, proclaiming between BLINK tags how different and special each one of them is.

    I've retreated almost totally into USENET, mailing lists, and a few IRC channels that still offer a modicum of intelligent conversation and interesting information. I don't accept HTML email, and although I still browse slashdot and K5, I don't post as regularly as I used to.

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  6. Trolling the web? by Havokmon · · Score: 3, Insightful
    In other news, window shopping is down, party due to people actually visiting the stores in the mall..

    P2P, IM, online gaming... Instead of 'Trolling the web' looking for something to do, people have actually FOUND something to do..

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  7. "Re-purposing" the web... by erat · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I remember when it was exciting to pop by Yahoo.com and see the short list of sites they added the day before. That was in the early '90s, I believe. I can't imagine experiencing the web the same way now. It's just too big...

    Since web browsing lost its lustre for me, I've found that the sites that hold my interest most are (gasp!) membership sites that bring together folks with similar tastes. My current favorite is David Lynch's web site. I don't want to sound like an advertisement, but there's frequently updated content, things you won't get anywhere else like a few different "series" David's putting on just for the site, and there's a very, VERY strong member following centered around two chat areas (which David himself as well as some of the folks behind David's movies frequent). Yes, I pay to be there. But in my opinion, it's worth it. I get no advertisements, I get to filter out all but a segment of our planet that has similar interests to mine, and I get to chat with my favorite movie director (and some actors, and writers, and other directors, and... well, you know).

    That, in my opinion, is what the "new" web will be about. There's a lot of free stuff out there, and occasionally some of it is good, but more often than not I find myself "turning it off" like I do with my TV nowadays. More now than ever, on the web you get what you pay for. If I have to pay for quality content, I'm going to.

  8. It's the content, stupid... by aquarian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...or the content has gotten stupid. Ads and spam don't bother me at all. The problem is the content- there isn't any. For awhile, the best and timliest content was on the web. Now it's been displaced by meaningless advertorial drivel. It's looking more and more like network television- a breadcrumb trail of blurbs and teasers, leading to nothing but more blurbs and teasers.

  9. Google and work connections by Yet+Another+Smith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The folks who have been saying "Broadband" are on the right track. I can think of two more factors which have cut my home web surfing time.

    Work Connections
    At work, I've got a lot of time for web surfing while waiting for processes to finish (they won't buy me a second processor :( ) which means when I get home, I'm in the mood for something else. I only surf from home when I'm looking for something specific, which brings me to my second point.

    Google
    Google has cut the time it takes me to find the exact info I'm looking for. I don't spend so much time dealing with extraneous crap, and find exactly what I want.

    Of course, I don't create web pages any more either, so I'm not out there looking for ideas.

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  10. Re:Advertisements! by mrnick · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Have you noticed how even the once most respected sites has started pushing pop ups and pop overs to try and sell you a credit card, etc??? Makes me surf less for SURE!

    Nick

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  11. Its the *ds by SomeOtherGuy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I loved this topic so I thought I would bring it up with my wife....Who although a technophobe, discovered the web and email a few years back -- and learned to use search engines and email clients. I noticed that her use is down a bunch in the last year, so I asked her why --- and it boiled down to the constant bombardment from companies splattering flashy ads and countless popups in her face.....And her amount of Spam easily hides any legitimate emails that might creep through. She says she is tired digging through 40 junk emails to find the 1 email from her sister. I myself have countered the effect fairly well by using procmail filters and the new features of decent browsers that let you turn off popups. But you can't expect your casual, non tech user to take all of these steps. (Yet these people still get annoyed with spam, in your face flashing ads, and popups flying all over their desktops...)

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