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GNOME 2.0 Desktop Beta 3 Released
damiam writes "GNOME 2.0 Desktop Beta 3 has been released. Changes include new versions of Nautilus, Yelp, and the control center, as well as bugfixes all around. Download it from gnome.org or one of the mirrors." Jeff Waugh adds: "The possibility of a complete beer freeze at GUADEC has inspired another kickarse release of the GNOME 2.0 Desktop. It's awesome stuff, definitely worth trying out. You should find GARNOME handy if there are no packages available for your distro."
Wow, I'm impressed nobody has posted links to screenshots yet!
Here you go: http://developer.gnome.org/dotplan/images/
The mention of Seville in the release title is a reference to the upcoming GUADEC (Gnome Users and Developers European Conference) in Seville, Spain on April 4-6.
Yeah, the fonts pretty much suck, I use fonts from Windows, but better hinting in the fonts wont help much for most people's default freetype installations, as the proper bytecode interpreter by default is disabled, and the crappy auto-hinter is enabled by default. But don't blame the freetype people for this, blame Apple's patent. I would think by merely shipping freetype with the bytecode interpreter, enabled or not, is a big risk. Anyway, enabling proper hinting takes a recompile, the include file include/freetype/config/ftoption.h has the option specified on line 435 or thereabouts..
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Funny, I'm looking at it from my Titanium PowerBook G4 as well, and I see nothing wrong with most of the fonts in the screenshots. Some people picked what I would consider ugly fonts in some screenshots, but that's their right. OSX, in comparison, for better or worse, gives people very little choice.
I see plenty wrong with your attitude, however. Apple has only been able to spend that much time and money on graphic design because they got much of the nitty-gritty work done for them by open source folks. If it weren't for open source, OSX wouldn't be here and Apple would likely be out of business soon.
And maybe Apple should spend some time on their own font rendering as well, because, frankly, Apple's anti-aliasing on PowerBooks sucks.
I just have trouble believing that in the year 2002 you guys still don't have nice hinted fonts shipping and in-use by default with X.
In part, that's Apple's fault, actually. Their software patents on the particular hinting methods used in TrueType have held back the development of open source renderers for TrueType.
And X11 actually has had good hinting technology for years, but because Apple and Microsoft managed to push their own, new, proprietary font standards, the X11 folks had to start from scratch.
So, be nice. Apple has plenty of bad history to make up for with the open source community, and they need all the help they can get.
The main diffrence isn't even user level it is
KDE is based in C++
Gnome is based in C
both have language bindings for other languages but they still are partial to the language they are based in.
other wise there really isn't much diffrence. Not even a vi vs. emacs diffrent. More like a vim vs elvis type thing.
They feed off each other to improve them selves, and do quite a good job of it.
just my 2cents
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It means "the rain in Seville is wonderful". It has been taken from the Spanish translation of the film "My Fair Lady". I think the original English sentence was "in Spain the rain falls always in the plain", or something like that, but the translators adapted it so the translation would also repeat a difficult phoneme ("ai" in the original, "ll" in the translation).
(I'm from Spain) The complete sentences says: "La lluvia en sevilla es una pura maravilla", and yes, it's from my fair lady, (original: "The rain in spain stays mainly in the plains") as said above. 'll' is not pronounced as 'y', not exactly... is more "liquid"; so the phrase gets a curious rythm and sound. Why did they translate it so and what does it really mean... it is a mistery for me. I suppose you have to see my fair lady to know it.
Additionally, the GNOME 2.0 Desktop *replaces* the GNOME 1.4 desktop components, so most RPMs will not "coexist nicely".
That's an absolutely ridiculous statement. There were hinted outline fonts available before TrueType even came along; we didn't need Apple or Microsoft to create the TrueType format. And TrueType fonts are a huge pain to create in the first place.
Some standard would have come along no matter what. This particular standard happens to come with patent strings attached, and that's not particularly nice.
huh? i dont see any gtkhtml programs on that screenshot.. the fonts are nicely anti-aliased and about half the people that use gtk+X hate it and the other half like it. just setting a variable turns it on/off.
And as far as printing goes, I installed CUPS on my laptop running Debian Unstable at work 2 days ago and it was the easier setup ive came across. good quality printing to the hp laserjet on a Windows 98 computer. no wonder Apple has licensed to use CUPS for printing.
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Go to Sun's web page, http://www.sun.com/gnome
They look the same, feel the same, and their goal is the same. GNOME and KDE are both trying to be good desktop environments.
A desktop environment (or "DE") is more than just a window manager, it is the integration of applications. Before DE's, most X applications had their own individual look and feel, did not interact very much with other applications, and there was very little code sharing. KDE sought to solve this, by building a group of libraries (now known as kdelibs) for all desktop apps to utilize. Before KDE, there was CDE, but it was not nearly as ambitious. KDE was to be the ultimate unix desktop. GNOME came around about a year later, as a result of the GNU folks unhappy with the Qt license (KDE uses the C++ Qt library as a foundation). Now Qt is GPL, but back then it was not. This leaves us today with two desktop environment efforts.
From a user (or UI) standpoint, there is very little difference between the two. You'll find that most of the differences are internal. GNOME uses CORBA and Bonobo to integrate applications, while KDE uses DCOP and KParts.
In my opinion (note: I am a KDE user), KDE is more stable and complete because it is based around a featureful and commercialized foundation toolkit: Qt. This means that the KDE team can focus soley on the DE, while a dedicated company, Trolltech, works on their foundation. GNOME, on the other hand, uses (and maintains) gtk as a foundation toolkit, an offshoot of the GIMP. This is a tremendous effort on the part of the GNOME folks, because they have to develop both the foundation toolkit _and_ DE. gtk1 is not on par with Qt, and I don't think gtk2 will be either (Qt just simply has way too many years over gtk), but perhaps someday...
Anyhow, I say just choose the one you feel most comfortable with. They both have a large selection of applications, and excited userbases. I don't think one will ever win over the other, but maybe they will slowly merge together in some respects. I use KDE because I like the look/feel/behavior, as well as the programming style and organization. Also, DCOP from the commandline is just too cool.