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Fax-Spam Prohibition Ruled Unconstitutional

An anonymous reader submitted a link to this Orange County Register story which reports that "A federal court has ruled in favor of Aliso Viejo (California)-based Fax.com in a dispute over the federal statute that bars sending mass, unsolicited faxes, the company said. Two years ago, Missouri sued Fax.com and another broadcast-fax advertising service that has since gone out of business for violations of the 1991 Telephone Consumer Protection Act." Missouri's Attorney General plans to appeal.

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  1. Spam is theft, theft is legal,... by coyote-san · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let's get something straight before I go any further. Spam (email and fax) is theft. It's theft of my resources - my bandwidth, my disk space, and my paper and toner supplies.

    Unsolicited physical mail does me relatively little harm. It does take a bit of time to sort through it, but the USPS won't toss out my VISA bill because the annoying weekly flyer has taken up the last of my mailbox space.

    In contrast, I've lost email because spam filled a partition. (Some broken mailer hit me with 20+ copies of a multimegabyte file in less than an hour.) My fax machine, being the cheapest I could find since I was mostly interested in outgoing faxes, uses a plastic strip that can only handle a relative handful of pages. Every junk fax that I receive significantly increases the risk that an important fax will be cut off.

    If the courts rule that it's legal to steal from me, the results are obvious and inevitable. No more fax, no more junk mail, no answering machine (same legal logic applies), no telephone. You want to talk to me, you'll do it just like the Founding Fathers expected - you'll send a letter or you'll visit me in person because the cost of me offering any alternative is too high.

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    For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. -- H L Mencken
    1. Re:Spam is theft, theft is legal,... by fmaxwell · · Score: 5, Interesting

      But that's exactly why spam is not theft. You are voluntarily offering to be contacted by random people via email.

      That's absurdly twisted logic. That's like saying that simply having a cell phone means that you are volunteering to receive calls at your expense from anyone that wants to sell you something.

      My having an e-mail address is not an invitation for random people to contact me. It is so that people and companies can reply to me when I contact them. If I choose to post it on a web page about turkey vulture watching, then I am inviting contacts from people about that particular subject -- and no other.

      If you don't want unsolicited emails, set up your mail server not to accept them.

      And how do you propose doing that when the spammers forge the from address and use subjects that sound legitimate? I already block blind-copied mail from untrusted senders, all mail from China, Brazil, Korea, and Taiwan. I block mail that has any of the following country domains in the Received: lines:

      .ar - Argentina
      .br - Brazil
      .cn - China
      .cz - Czech Republic
      .de - Germany
      .id - Indonesia
      .il - Israel
      .it - Italy
      .jp - Japan
      .kr - Korea
      .mx - Mexico
      .my - Malaysia
      .pl - Poland
      .ru - Russia
      .sg - Singapore
      .tw - Taiwan

      I have a huge list of keywords from the subject and body that get blocked. I use mail-forwarding accounts so that I can give out different addresses based on the level of trust I have for the entity I'm giving the address to. I then filter accordingly.

      And I still get spam.

  2. The lines really get blurred... by redhatbox · · Score: 3, Interesting


    I used to have several digital fax "inboxes", which I used for both business and personal purposes. Some of these were paid accounts, others (most notably OneBox.com) were free.

    In fact, I used to work as a programmer for a company here in Atlanta called Ptek, which in turn has a business unit called Voicecom. Voicecom offered (probably still do) another "all in one inbox" business solution, whereby faxes could be delivered directly into your email inbox for your review. This blurs the lines between what used to be separate communications services, and I expect this trend to continue as people continue to want all their communications tech from a single point of access.

    Therefore, I offer the following point: what separates (in this environment, at least) email SPAM/UCE from unsolicited faxes? We've got more anti-spam legislation going into the mix every month it seems; could some of this be leveraged to fight the battle against junk faxes?

    For reference, I now receive an average of four to five junk faxes a week on my primary OneBox account. It's annoying :(.

  3. Re:So they think junk faxes are okay, huh? by gunner800 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Start forwarding all the spam you get to their fax machine, and see how long they continue to not have a problem with unsolicited faxes....


    When a business sends out faxes hoping to trick somebody into buying some random piece of crap, that's protected expression. But if an individual does it as a form of protest, it will probably be called illegal harassment.

  4. Re:TEXT relating to Decision from LEXUS-NEXUS by Tackhead · · Score: 3, Interesting
    From the judge's ruling as described in Pennsylvania Law Weekly:
    The evidence presented at the hearing showed that it no longer takes several minutes to process a single page fax. The evidence indicated that it could take as much time as 30 seconds, but more often, it takes 3 to 6 seconds to process. The 'sophisticated and expensive' facsimile machines are more common now as compared to 1991, and even a lower-end fax machine can hold in its memory 60 to 80 pages,"

    Theft is OK, as long as you only steal a little bit at a time.

    Both the Washington and Florida Attorney General's offices testified that after TCPA was enacted, there was an increase in complaints regarding unsolicited faxes.

    That fact, Limbaugh said, calls the law's effectiveness into question because "the court would assume that the complaints would decrease rather than increase."

    Lemme get this straight. There's no law against something, so nobody files complaints with the Attorney General, because they know they're gonna be told "Fuck off, it's legal, if you don't like it, write your Congressman."

    So they do what they're told. They write (and fax :) their Congressmen, and Congress passes a law against the something. And then they complain to their Attorney General again, saying "Hey, now it's illegal, do something!"

    And that's this fuckweasel's argument for him thinking the law is ineffective? *bitchslap*, HEY, ASSHOLE, is the law against burglary somehow "ineffective" because the police started to get more complaints about break-ins after a law against theft was passed?

    As a final insult, after hiking up the skirts of Justice, he then proceeds to ram it home: Upon realizing that federal courts have exclusive jurisdiction over actions bought by state Attorneys-General, and that State courts judge cases brought by private parties, he rules unconstitutional the right of private action.

    Congress, in a rare display of clue, anticipating that your State prosecutors (having first told you "fuck off, it's legal") will continue to tell you to fuck off by doing nothing to enforce the new law, includes a private right of action. Congress, in effect, is saying "If your idiot Attorney General can't be bothered to bring charges, you can file suit for $500".

    11 years after that, a judge tells you to fuck off, confirming what you already knew - writing your Congressman is a fucking waste of time, even when he does pass the law you require, your Attorney General will still ignore it, and when you try to use it yourself, a judge in the thrall of the Direct Marketing Association will simply throw out the part of the law you need.

    This has to be appealed, and it has to be overturned. A man's home is his castle, and theft by conversion cannot be free speech.

    This judge is an insult to the bench, and his ruling brings the law into disrepute.

  5. Don't fax that judge! by pdqlamb · · Score: 3, Informative

    Don't sign up the (stoopid luser of a) judge that ruled spam faxers have a constitutional right to use your connection, equipment, paper and toner. No, he's already stuck his foot in it, and he won't change his mind.

    Instead, sign up all the judges on the appeals court that will hear the appeal, and fax them your junk e-mails, etc. They're the ones who will decide next. If they can't get any useful faxes (like submissions from Fax.com), maybe they'll see reason.

    (flame) Lusers named Limbaugh are a hopeless case.(/flame)