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Cold Fusion Conference Counts Eleven Labs

James Salsman writes: "From an American Physical Society conference session held a week ago, there appear to be now eleven institutions actively publishing cold fusion results: Research Systems (Arlington, VA), SRI International, ENEA (Italy), JET Energy (Welleslley, MA), Middle Tennessee State Univ., Russian Academy of Sciences, U. of Il. at Urbana-Champaign, U.S. Navy's SPAWAR Systems Center in San Diego, First Gate Energy (Woodside, CA, and a few blocks from my house), New Energy Research Lab. (NH), and MIT. Credible or crackpot? You be the judge."

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  1. Blind fundamentalists by aminorex · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Academic orthodoxy and political correctness
    has blinded the physics community to the
    accumulation of evidence in favor of some sort
    of CF process, from excess neutrons, to impeccable
    calorimetry. The bottom line is that the hot
    fusion industry is big money for big science, and
    CF is percieved as a threat to a lot of grants.

    Really, the only respectable excuse for this
    blindness is the subtlety of the materials aspect:
    The reproducibility of CF experiments is amazingly
    sensitive to the origin and process application of
    the Pd electrodes. This makes it genuinely
    difficult to generate consistent results, in the
    absence of consistent experimental apparatus.
    Those who discount CF on this basis have retained
    some credibility.

    The greatest lesson of the CF saga is simply
    that press releases are a double-edged sword,
    because popular press sensationalism created an
    enormous antipathetic backlash against CF.

    It seems most likely at this point that classical
    CF is some sort of lattice-distributed analog of
    sonoluminescent fusion, which also has been
    demonstrated to produce excess neutrons.

    I think that if Pons and Fleischman had chosen
    not to release their results publically, progress
    in this area would have been much more rapid.
    I don't blame them for feeling obligated to make
    such a fundamental breakthrough public knowledge,
    but in retrospect, it was an enormous tactical
    mistake. Even if (and it is by no means a given
    that this will ever happen) one day a practically
    useful powersource can be developed from CF or
    sonoluminescent fusion, it will be a huge uphill
    struggle to reverse the entrenched biases of
    even the public, let alone the well-heeled hot
    fusion lobby.

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    -I like my women like I like my tea: green-
  2. Re:evidence IS there, just look! by The+Mayor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let's see. You told this guy to stop ranting. He said he wasn't ranting, that the evidence was there. You then told him to stop ranting, and that the evidence wasn't there. So he sites a bunch of sources that support his side. You tell him "it is common to claim that people who disagree with you have not read enough".

    Hmmm. It is common to provide a non-sequitor and resort to name-calling when one is obviously losing an argument. Mr. Lindahl, your arguments are trite and consist of complete non-sequitors. Stop the name-calling (i.e. "child"). It doesn't add much to the discussion (nor does my reply, but I felt your comments warranted more than a simple moderation).

    For the record, aminorex never stated that "the evidence is clear". Instead, he stated, "The evidence is there" and to "Get off the couch and go read the papers". He is not stating that the evidence is incontrovertable. He is merely stating there is a wide body of evidence that supports the claims of cold fusion.

    Greg, your debating skills are weak and you retreat to simple name calling and the use of non-sequitors when you are losing. It is not aminorex that is dilluting this discussion; instead, it is you.

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    --Be human.