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Carnivore Update

A reader writes: "Yahoo has a news item about the continued use of DCS-1000 AKA Carnivore. Looks like it's being used more than ever, and some privacy groups are still fighting in court for more disclosure about its use."

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  1. Huh? by sllort · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Carnivore is not deployed on our network," Shaw said. "We certainly do comply with law enforcement, but we do so in a way that does not compromise our users' privacy."

    How does that work, exactly? Does Earthlink force you to use military-grade encryption prior to subscribing?

  2. This may mean nothing but... by linuxrunner · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm heading an OpenSource project thats grown to a fair size...
    Therefore I have people send me files, etc to my e-mail address often.

    I'm using AT&T Broadband internet (http://www.attbi.com), Some one sends me a .tar.gz file... or a .zip file. I, later on, get an e-mail asking if I got the file... I hadn't. He re-sends. I soon get both in my e-mail later that day.

    Now I'm not much of a conspiracy person, but... since when do we get e-mails sent second, first?
    Why are e-mails with attachments taking so much longer to get to me, then e-mails without attachments? Anyone else notice this?

    --
    www.slightlycrewed.com - Because aren't we all?
  3. Re:Just in case Yahoo gets slashdotted... by Mr+Teddy+Bear · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You know... just to let ya know... yahoo gets more traffic in one hour than slashdot gets in a day. I wouldn't be too concerned about the /. effect on freakin YAHOO!. :-)

  4. Re:my packets by DEATH+AND+HATRED · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is a violation of free speach. Free speach is inseperable from free thought. If I am not free to say 'I like/hate politician X', then my 'rights' to free thought are violated. Take the a country that oppreses politacal disidents (with this spelling I should be a /. editor!). If Mr. X was caught saying 'I disagree with the goverment' and is tortured for it, next time he will be less likely express his political views. In this case, just by being monitored, his free speach is being violated. Im not aware of anyone being tortured over carnivore eaves droppings yet, this is just an example. I believe the supreme court (sorry, no references to back myself up) has upheld that free speach protects and is insperable from free thought for the same reason I just cited.

  5. Addresses are not encrypted by ancalagon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Even if you use pgp/gpg, the adresses of the recipients are NOT encrypted.

    I don't send messages to any known terrorists, but have you ever looked at a /var/log/maillog of a corporate mailserver? It is really interesting. You can learn a lot just by analysing the addresses.

  6. Re:September 11th used to justify everything. by arkanes · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Theres a big difference between "Someone might see this, if they happen to be looking", and "We, the government, are going to actively inspect EVERYTHING". Kinda like how you might not worry about having the blinds drawn all the time, but you'd still get pissed off if the police sat outside with binoculars.

    There is also an amazingly large leap from "taking responsibility for the words you write" to "it's okay for the government to inspect everything I write for possible subversive content".

  7. Godwin's Law by dmaxwell · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've suggested before that invoking Communism or major communistic leaders like Stalin should be an argument losing tactic as well. How many of you are sick of crap like this:

    That GPL stuff is just communism anyway. Yur just out to put 'leet programmers like me out of work.

    Communism is invoked to make cheap talking points in exactly the same way Nazism is invoked; it's yet another cheap rhetorical club whose use should brand anyone using it as just another ignorant 11 year old talking out his hind end.

    I don't care for Ashcroft either but the parent poster is right. The guy who compared Ashcroft to Stalin shot himself in the foot.

    Communism corollary to Godwin's Law anyone?

  8. Re:Keywords by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    You know, you did bring up a valid point: with all this spam going on, wouldn't this overload any monitoring? I mean, maybe spam is HELPING us keep our privacy by increasing the noise out there.