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Carnivore Update

Posted by Hemos on from the keep-up-the-fight dept.

A reader writes: "Yahoo has a news item about the continued use of DCS-1000 AKA Carnivore. Looks like it's being used more than ever, and some privacy groups are still fighting in court for more disclosure about its use."

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  1. Huh? by sllort · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "Carnivore is not deployed on our network," Shaw said. "We certainly do comply with law enforcement, but we do so in a way that does not compromise our users' privacy."

    How does that work, exactly? Does Earthlink force you to use military-grade encryption prior to subscribing?

  2. Re:September 11th used to justify everything. by arkanes · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Theres a big difference between "Someone might see this, if they happen to be looking", and "We, the government, are going to actively inspect EVERYTHING". Kinda like how you might not worry about having the blinds drawn all the time, but you'd still get pissed off if the police sat outside with binoculars.

    There is also an amazingly large leap from "taking responsibility for the words you write" to "it's okay for the government to inspect everything I write for possible subversive content".

  3. Godwin's Law by dmaxwell · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've suggested before that invoking Communism or major communistic leaders like Stalin should be an argument losing tactic as well. How many of you are sick of crap like this:

    That GPL stuff is just communism anyway. Yur just out to put 'leet programmers like me out of work.

    Communism is invoked to make cheap talking points in exactly the same way Nazism is invoked; it's yet another cheap rhetorical club whose use should brand anyone using it as just another ignorant 11 year old talking out his hind end.

    I don't care for Ashcroft either but the parent poster is right. The guy who compared Ashcroft to Stalin shot himself in the foot.

    Communism corollary to Godwin's Law anyone?