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FDA Approves Implantable Microchips
phrontist writes: "Wired is running a story about the Federal Drug Administration ruling that an 'implantable microchip used for ID purposes is not a regulated device, paving the way for the chip's immediate sale in the United States.' Spooky."
If I had kids I'd seriously consider chipping them. I can think of many a time my little sister would pull a disapearing act and be gone for hours. Off with some new friend. This was at an age when she had no business being off alone, much less after dark. It would have saved everyone a lot of grief and the local cops no few hours if finding her just involved a simple querry to VeriChip.
I believe that the FDA did not approve the implants, but rather decided that they are not medical and therefore not under the jurisdiction of the FDA. There's a big difference between being unregulated by the FDA and being approved by the FDA.
Maybe a small update could clear things up.
Chicago2600.net more than a lifestyle, its a survival trait.
So the time when kids used to be kids and could do whatever hell they wanted is over. Now, they're prisoners in their own family, and if they're abused there's nowhere to run or hide. They absolutely have to follow all the silly rules. There isn't really any moral dilemma for them to ponder either. Either they do as they're told, or get reeled in by their parents. Another victory for technology! It'll solve all our problems. Yeeehaw!
Excuse me if I'm being sarcastic, but the more you limit a child instead of teaching what is a good idea and not AND WHY, the bigger chance they'll rebel straight into dope-hell. The problem today is that most parents are not fit to have a child at all. They're just too immature.
Just think about it. Instead of having to find the passports of all the passengers of a airplane/bus/tourist group, and then find out all the Americans so they can be shot, you only have to wave a tag reader around the group.
Much easier. You can even just take it out on a walk in some tourist place and when you get that 'beep' for an american he can be shot right there on the spot.
This also solves problems of double nationalities when people have 2 passports and you only find the european one.
Ahh, life vill be sweet ..
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Careful now. .
The Bible, by many accounts, is about 80% Roman propaganda, inspired by the same forces which are running things today, affecting our news agencies and textbook makers with just as much vigor as back then. There is a definite agenda at work here, and manufactured religions, (i.e. nearly all of them, including all of the big ones), are very much a part of the psychological programming at work.
If people believe in the apocalypse according to King James, that it is pre-destined, it will make it that much easier for those who intend to harvest us.
This is a free choice universe, a very powerful truth which some would like you to discard. While Jesus was very likely an enlightened teacher of great influence, his words have been massively corrupted. The Bible is a HUGE lie; it promotes a linear reality, a shutting down of the natural human thinking and questioning process, filling people with a fear of knowledge and individual thinking, and it indoctrinates people with programs like, "Turn the Other Cheek," and "The Meek Will Inherit", etc. --Exactly the kind of thinking you want people to have if you plan to harvest. Don't take over until people are ready to accept their "Shepherds" with open arms. It's all about efficiency and paths of least resistance.
So you are right, stuff is starting to go down as predicted in the bible, but it is only because the whole damned thing is a set-up.
-Fantastic Lad --Shepherds tend their flocks, but they also fleece and butcher them.
Want a confirmed kill? Seems reasonable... assassination devices could be implanted in everyday items or places, merely waiting for the intended target to enter proximity. This could open a whole new world for precision, stand-off assassination!
The Bible, by many accounts, is about 80% Roman propaganda, inspired by the same forces which are running things today, affecting our news agencies and textbook makers with just as much vigor as back then. There is a definite agenda at work here, and manufactured religions, (i.e. nearly all of them, including all of the big ones), are very much a part of the psychological programming at work.
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Huh? Roman propaganda? Gentile (as opposed to Jewish), perhaps, but not Roman--early Christians were persecuted for a long time; it only stopped around the time of Constantine. Even then; you have to realize that most of the NT was written by Jews... Paul, [the writers of] Mark, Matthew, Hebrews, etc. are clearly Jewish. Granted, they no longer represented the Jewish orthodoxy; but if they did, they wouldn't be Christians any more...
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If people believe in the apocalypse according to King James, that it is pre-destined, it will make it that much easier for those who intend to harvest us.
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If you have any expectations whatsoever which are known to another party, they can be used to manipulate you. If you have no expectations whatsoever, you are out to lunch... I should hope that you expect the sun to rise tomorrow, or gravity to remain in effect (the mathematical descriptions thereof notwithstanding).
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This is a free choice universe, a very powerful truth which some would like you to discard. While Jesus was very likely an enlightened teacher of great influence, his words have been massively corrupted.
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Since theologians have been using the 'free will' defense for ages, I'm not sure who is asking whom to discard what. Are you talking about Calvinists here?
"Massively corrupted" is rather nebulous. If you mean that the quotes of Jesus are likely not word-for-word, okay; if you mean something else, please explain (and give examples from the text). The ancients weren't so willy-nilly in quoting people as some suppose, however. I refer you to the beggining of _The_History_of_the_Pelophonesian_War_ for how one ancient historian got his quotes. It should be available on classics.mit.edu, IIRC.
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The Bible is a HUGE lie; it promotes a linear reality, a shutting down of the natural human thinking and questioning process, filling people with a fear of knowledge and individual thinking, and it indoctrinates people with programs like,
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The Bible does no such thing; people do. What, pray tell, is "linear reality"? If you mean the notion that all issues are black & white; I disagree. Even the Apostles debated various things amongst themselves, according to Acts...
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"Turn the Other Cheek," and "The Meek Will Inherit", etc. --Exactly the kind of thinking you want people to have if you plan to harvest.
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*Who* is planning to "harvest" whom??? Non-violent resistance *does* work, however. I refer you to MLK & Ghandi... not to mention the eventual Christianization of the Roman Empire...
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Don't take over until people are ready to accept their "Shepherds" with open arms. It's all about efficiency and paths of least resistance.
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Who is taking over what??? Do you think that silly "Jewish conspiracy" plans to take over the financial sector? Explain!
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So you are right, stuff is starting to go down as predicted in the bible, but it is only because the whole damned thing is a set-up.
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By whom? Who is in a position to 'set it up'? Do you think that someone decided that the best way to reform Israel was to convince Hitler to make war with everyone, then impose the 'Final Solution' so that afterwards, those who ended his tyranny would have sympathy & give them back their ancestral homeland? If it wasn't known beforehand, it could not be prophecy; if it was, everyone just says "it was obviously self-fulfilling" without bothering to explain who it influenced in what way & how said events would not have occured without it...
> Shepherds tend their flocks, but they also fleece and butcher them.
Historical context: in the time & place where those sayings were composed, sheep were too valuable to butcher. Sorry. The 'fleecing' bit is just wordplay.
Are you all fucking kidding me? You are all the guys that get hung up about so much as MAC addresses being seen as personnally identifiable on the internet. And none of you are ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGED that the FDA has approved IMPLANTED ID CHIPS? I will DIE before I end up with some fucking chip inside me. I don't have so much as a tattoo on me, I shure as hell don't need my life story on some fucking piece of flash memory inside my ass.
Watch this story catch sub-1000 posts when it is more important and outragous than any five stories on the hof. I can deal with not being annonymous on the internet. I can choose not to use it if it comes to that. But if I cannot so much as walk down the street without every Corporation, Government and Asshole knowing more about me than I know myself, I am certainly no longer free, not by the greatest stretch of the imagination about "the good of mankind" or "medical miracles" or "protection from kidnapping"
Gimme a fucking break. Have you seen the first test case family? They are freaks! the son is some 180 iq juvie with dreams of becoming arnold in terminator because he is fat and his lips are too big. Daddy has been smoking weed for 30 years. Mommy a vacant follower who does everything fat assed sonny says because he's smarter than she is. Their fucking quote is "It's all Derik's idea, he is so bright that we are taking his advice on this". Jesus Christ, the kid is still wet behind the ears.
Derek's list of accomplishments at 14 (the wired article got it wrong):
He's an MCSE/MCP/A+
and is the owner of a fucking counsulting business
You tell me, does everyone here want to follow this jackasses lead?
If voting were effective, it would be illegal by now.
You could wear a braclet with the chip embedded, or your fingerprint could be matched to a database, or your DNA, or your retinal pattern.
The chip is a device to monitor movement. All other uses are an obfuscation of this fact.
At first, the implantable chips will be used, just like now, to contain medical info and some identification. And for paranoid parents, living in the safest communities in the history of the human race, it will be used as an anti-milk carton safety device.
The use for medical info is silly. Such a chip could be put into a watch, or a bracelet, or an earring, or a pendant.
The use for children will endear the tracker to parents, but think: if the chip responds to a radio signal, than a rather cheap device can be built to find the chip on the child's body. A person sick enough to kidnap a child would have no problem cutting the chip out of the body. They might even think it an extra dollop of fun.
So, I ask, why a chip...
Well, first of all, it's going to make its developers rich, as it becomes more widely used, and eventually, mandatory.
The first effect of the the chip's existence is the acclimatization of people to the idea that a device can be implanted into them which will enable others to track their movements. Our generation will balk, but the next will be okay with it, and the one after won't even question it. Think of urine tests for jobs, and endless civil rights violations commonly committed today in the name of fighting drugs, and now, terrorism.
Next, the chip will be implanted involunarily into former felons, and later into 'lawbreakers' at a judge's discretion. All these uses will be applauded in the name of public safety. Of course, the number of people now regarded as "felons" is swelling, now that the drug laws are being enforced in a draconian fashion. There are probably millions of people qualified today to wear a chip by legislative or judicial decree.
Of course, a real criminal will find a way to circumvent the device, or remove it entirely. Only moderately law-abiding people will continue to carry it.
next up, you guessed it, Businesses! In the name of preventing terrorism, monitoring employee theft of materiel or company time, and just plain convenience, lower level employees (NEVER executives, unless there is a security reason to do so) will find that having the chip implanted is a requirement for employment. At first, we'll see defense-related companies requiring trackers, but after that gains acceptance, then other companies will follow... eventually most of them, or at least the ones that pay well, will require some sort of tracker.
Of course, Schools!! Thinking Of The Children, we will of course require our threatened kinder to wear these devices as a condition of even having an education. It'll start out small, somewhere -- a schoolyeard killing with no way of finding the killer, or a child molestation, crimes that will make a privacy proponent think hard when it comes to protesting. but like metal detectors, drug testing, strip searches, and the like, it'll be accepted. As the majority of the current SCOTUS opines, if you are underage, you have no constitutional rights. And if you protest, you are a DRUGGIE parent who should send your kids to a DRUGGIE school. (I'm not making that last part up. It's staggering.)
Let's see: next up, consumer convenience. A chip, in addition to tracking, can give you e-cash abilities. Buy a coke, pay for it by swiping your hand into a detector. That may be a killer app.
The chip can be used for national ID, eliminating all the birth certificates, social security cards, drivers' licenses, company ID's, resumes, credit histories... endless stuff. People will find this liberating.
But it also means: anyone who wants to, will be able to track your movements for the totality of your life, at least the parts where you interact with society.
It means that, increasingly, to get an education, to get student loans, to enter the country, to get a job, to have a career, to get a passport, you will have to surrender your body to an implant gun. And now since the FDA has so conveniently taken medical people out of the loop, anyone can demand to shove one into you, literally.
And since the U.S. is now forcing other countries to change their constitutions (think Norway, I recall, and the Scientologists) to reflect our laws, there will be increasingly no place to go to get away from this. Hell, the U.S. may be one of the more relaxed implementations.
If any of you think that this is acceptable, then there is nothing I can say that will change your mind. And I will attempt to establish a new country on a Pacific island, I swear.