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CIPA Trial Comes to a Close

Cossie writes "As the latest major case on library/internet censorship comes to a close, CNET News has an article up summarizing the court battle over the CIPA (Children's Internet Protection Act). It's a decent summary of the case, including several quotes by judges commenting on the case." See our story from when the suit was filed describing the issues at stake.

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  1. Ouch! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Frosty Pist hurts my penis!

  2. Link by Bonker · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Karmawhoresystem2.1:

    Judes Blast Filtering System

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    1. Re:Link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      offtopic? it's a link to a Wired story with more info than the CNet one. the only thing wrong with the post is a mispelling of Judge

  3. assfuXX0r! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    buttfuXX0r!

  4. Filtering obscenities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Does the CIPA include the filtering of the pillar of Internet culture?

  5. Burnt Weenie Sandwitch Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    This is my first time here and I would like to say "Burnt Weenie Sandwitch". Thank ya thank ya very musch.

    Mod me anyway you want to.
    You have that power.

    Group hugs for the moderators!

  6. World War III by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    At this moment, Bush, Arafat, Sharon, the oilindustry,the weaponindustry are preparing the third world war. Using the press on both sides of the world, (the muslim-world and the west) they are creating anger. In the muslim world the inacceptible war-politics of Sharon (they are doing A LOT MORE DAMAGE THAN IRAQ DID BY INVADING KUWAIT !!! Talk about hypocrisy from the USA ...) create a lot of NEW TERRORISTS ( think about it, as geeks you have brains : use them for godsake !) And in the western world, an image of fundamentalistic, religious fanatisism is projected on ALL muslims, not solely on the few (how many deaths have fallen on palestinian side and how many on israelli side ?) palestinians who commited suicide-attacks. So, when you think about it, you can imagine yourself a playground, where 2 kids are fighting for a toy, and one of the two kids(israel,palestina) has backup from a bully (the USA) and they have both a lot of friends, lets say each one half of the playground, which are getting angrier with the minute, and are considering taking their knives and guns out. Do not be fooled, stay calm : peace is the only solution.

  7. the world will burn for the third time. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    At this moment, Bush, Arafat, Sharon, the oilindustry,the weaponindustry are preparing the third world war. Using the press on both sides of the world, (the muslim-world and the west) they are creating anger. In the muslim world the inacceptible war-politics of Sharon (they are doing A LOT MORE DAMAGE THAN IRAQ DID BY INVADING KUWAIT !!! Talk about hypocrisy from the USA ...) create a lot of NEW TERRORISTS ( think about it, as geeks you have brains : use them for godsake !) And in the western world, an image of fundamentalistic, religious fanatisism is projected on ALL muslims, not solely on the few (how many deaths have fallen on palestinian side and how many on israelli side ?) palestinians who commited suicide-attacks. So, when you think about it, you can imagine yourself a playground, where 2 kids are fighting for a toy, and one of the two kids(israel,palestina) has backup from a bully (the USA) and they have both a lot of friends, lets say each one half of the playground, which are getting angrier with the minute, and are considering taking their knives and guns out. Do not be fooled, stay calm : peace is the only solution.

  8. Re:My proposal to Slashdot for CIPA article by Usquebaugh · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    _IMHO_

    /. is unwilling to publicise in anyway Michael's behaviour to the censorware project. The /. staff seem to view it as a transgression that is best forgotten about. I thought it would have made a good ask /., but apparently not :-)

    This would be all well and good if it wasn't for the some of the strident comments Michael makes as a /. editor.

  9. So by loraksus · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Senators going to try and put another protection act next week? What a victory.

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  10. Re:My proposal to Slashdot for CIPA article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    But is sethf entirely innocent? See www.stalkedbyseth.com for Michael's side of the story.

    Who *is* right here? Are both michael and sethf just too fucked up for words? Sure, sethf actually fights censorware, but mailing hundreds of letters (unless sims is making it up) is really freaky.

  11. Re:My proposal to Slashdot for CIPA article by Seth+Finkelstein · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Sims is making it up.

    I've never spammed Slashdot, or sent "hundreds of letters", or similar.

    The way you know who is telling the truth is simple logic. If he had anything, anything, serious on me, he'd be making maximum use of it. When you break it down, the only thing he has, is much calling me names, and that other people have called me names.

    The reason for the lie is that he has learned as a journalist, there is no cost to fabrication. Since he can throw mud with no downside, he does so. Whatever sticks to me is to his benefit. If he can shift the debate away from What Happened To The Censorware Project (censorware.org), to my sanity (i.e., lack thereof), he wins. Because that makes the topic about accusation and denial, and truth-is-in-the-middle, rather than his ongoing destruction and malicious actions.

    Michael Sims pulled this latest stunt just before the CIPA trial started. My mind boggles. He's GOATSE'D censorware.org! If someone tries to get to a censorware.org report from an old link, instead, they get his rant. It's amazing.

    This is ON-TOPIC. He derailed my planned anticensorware work to coincide with the CIPA trial, by his actions. He's goatse'ing people looking for material from censorware.org, motivated by the CIPA trial. It's absolutely shameful.

  12. Re:My proposal to Slashdot for CIPA article by FortKnox · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I honestly think that /. should put michael on the criticising block, and let the community have at him. Maybe an interview with him.

    That way we can ask him about censorware.
    Ask him about the truth behind the rumors of him being a "moderating gustapo".
    And ask him about his insulting to various slashdot readers.


    Quickest way to kill rumors/conspiracy theories?
    Get it out in the open.

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  13. Ironic Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    CIPA in Polish is slang for Pussy!!!

  14. Yep, we all know that by MSBob · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    We all know that CIPA means 'cunt' in Polish, okay?

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  15. Interresting. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    From : http://www.salon.com/tech/books/2002/04/02/stallma n/index.html

    "In high school, Stallman got A's in math and physics, but he failed English because he adamantly refused to write essays of any kind. Williams speculates that Stallman may be mildly autistic, or even suffer from Asperger's syndrome, and he supports the theory with numerous observations from family and friends. Even in high school, other gifted math and science geeks were alienated by Stallman's out-of-kilter inability to socialize. "

  16. Re:My proposal to Slashdot for CIPA article by cavemanf16 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Haha! This comment just got bitchslapped, me thinks. Went from +4 to 0 within about 1 minute, all of them 'Troll' mods. Not to mention the fact that it keeps getting modded up. I doubt a community as one sided as slashdot is has a problem deciding whether Seth is spouting FUD or not... especially considering even the "MS Windows is great" trolls hate michael when they're writing non-trolling posts. Let's see if this one goes down in history as the +1000 mods post... ;)

  17. Re:NOT their money by goldspider · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    Apples and oranges, my friend. Banning a certain group of people from public facilities is illegal.

    But as it stands, it is well within the rights of a community to define obscenity standards, and statutes associated with that definition. I would think that includes the enforcement of such standards.

    Now the constitutionality of that can certainly be questioned, but I don't think that quite relates to this topic.

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  18. and for a follow-up on my above comment: by cavemanf16 · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    From the stalkedbyseth.com website:

    As it turned out, there was no group support for doing such a site [anti-censorware website] - no one wanted to take such a radical free-speech position except me [Michael Sims]. But getting a domain name and a dedicated site was still a good idea. So in Feb. 1998, I registered censorware.org for the exorbitant fee of $100 and set up a hosting account, for (I think) $50/month. Then it was on to develop the site. (Bold emphasis added)

    It is readily apparent that someone other than Seth F has a vendetta here. Such harsh language michael. I don't recall reading such inflammatory comments on Seth's account of said story. Hmmmm...

    And as FortKnox will attest, this isn't just your reaction to one man's 'obsession', as we've seen you do it here on this site too, bashing those of us who use and frequent Slashdot the most - i.e., we have, at least in the past, found it a great source of info, enjoyment, etc.

  19. Re:My proposal to Slashdot for CIPA article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    That's a very interesting reply. Seems just like the one you made yesterday

    I have to say, based on your posts, that I would side with Sims on this one.

  20. Re:My proposal to Slashdot for CIPA article by Seth+Finkelstein · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    I do a lot of cutting-and-pastings. Saves typing.

    Again, I keep stressing, we are not in the same position. I worry a lot about getting sued. I respond many times to Sims-smears. Yes, I say the same things over and over, because I'm asked the same things over and over.

    I did not do almost all of what Sims accuses me of doing. I deny it today. I denied it yesterday. If asked, I will deny it tomorrow.

    It is a cruel thing to then turn around and claim the repeated false accusations are somehow proof of truth.

    On-topic: This is not just a flame war. It has serious implications for my anticensorware work, related to issues such as CIPA. All the things I planned were derailed by Michael Sims' attack.

    New sig for today: My proposal to Slashdot for CIPA article

  21. Re:My proposal to Slashdot for CIPA article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    So what you're saying, is that when Seth Finkelstein is accused of stalking by harassing someone's employer, and you then post your own harassing emails as evidence, that that somehow indicates the charge is untrue?

    What are you smoking? I'd like some.

  22. Re:My proposal to Slashdot for CIPA article by Seth+Finkelstein · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    If Michael Sims accuses me of "stalking", does that mean:

    1) I can NEVER write an article proposal to his employers?

    2) If I do, it constitutes "harassing" to discuss a serious legal concern of mine based on Michael Sims' actions?

    Really, I'm curious, I'll pay the karma here.

    Read the issues I outline. Am I wrong? Frankly, the proposal seemed like a clever idea to me to solve my legal-risk problem and what damage Michael Sims might do in such a situation.

    Remember, for revenge, he posted an extensive legally-sensitive message from Censorware Project attorney James Tyre, detailing EVERYTHING I did in terms of decrypting censorware, great stuff for any censorware company to use if they wanted to sue me.

    But do you think I'm in the wrong for bringing up this action as a part of why I'm worried in doing legally-risky work? It's "harrassing email"? What Michael Sims did in breaching the trust the lawyer placed in him is ... what? Fun and games?

    How many times do I have to say this? It's not a matter of silly rant/flame/shut-off-machine and leave it. Programmers get sued for this work!

    New sig for today: My proposal to Slashdot for CIPA article