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The Perfect Email Client?

An anonymous reader sends: "Can those who review also design? Trying to practice what it preaches, CNET published this article, a description of the perfect e-mail client. Next up, apparently: hardware and electronics designs."

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  1. the bat by fyonn · · Score: 4, Informative

    for me the bat (www.ritlabs.com) comes close, now if oly they did a version for freebsd, even linux would do)

    dave

    1. Re:the bat by WowTIP · · Score: 2, Informative
      I searched for a good email client to use under windows a while ago. My preferred choise should:

      Not need to be installed (no tampering with the system).

      Be able to import Eudora adress books.

      Be as small as possible.

      Have an easy-to-use adress book.

      Be freeware if possible.

      Be configurable (looks, fonts, etc.).

      Be able to handle multiple accounts.

      Be able to read/remove HTML.

      Pegasus and Eudora was both too large, so the list was narrowed down to:

      Kaufman Mail Warrior.

      Opera browser mail.

      Poco mail

      The bat!

      i.Scribe

      After trying these clients out separately for a while, I came to the conclusion that Poco mail fitted my list best. Not that it was outstanding in any way, the bat! and Kaufman was almost as good. I didn't like the interface of the bat though, and Kaufman, though very nice, had some problems with replying to HTML mails. The only things with poco that didn't fit my wish list is that it is not free and that it needed installation. Otherwise great program. I will be keeping an eye on Kaufman MW though. If some small details are improved, the client will rock.

      If you know another WIN32 mail client that fits my wish list pretty close, please tell me. (Never satisfied :)

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  2. Hmmm by hattig · · Score: 4, Informative
    Pine has done the colouration of emails based upon criteria for years now, and it is a most useful feature that I would like to see in other email clients.

    The other points here are a checklist for current open source email clients (Evolution, KMail, Mozilla Mail, etc) - many of the features are already integrated of course. It is just Outlook that is lacking, and it will remain lacking because Microsoft take ages to upgrade software, and then only add features they think the user needs, not what the user actually needs.

    One thing I hear a lot about is the Amiga email program YAM as being extremely good. It is open source as well - a Unix port would be interesting.

    1. Re:Hmmm by David+Kennedy · · Score: 1, Informative

      > Pine has done the colouration of emails based upon criteria for years now, and it is a most useful feature that I would like to see in other email clients.

      To be fair, Outlook (2000) does this too.

    2. Re:Hmmm by Paladin128 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Although many email clients offer *some* of these features in some form, the point is no client offers them all in a consise form. As a Human-Computer Interation (HCI) designer by trade, most of their design is head-on. The Floating PIM pane is a great idea, particularly if it has one line that notifies when new email is there and from whom, and can be used to un-hide the actual email client.

      The split pane for the email messages, if done properly, could be nicely exploited. The "SPAM" button is a wonderful idea. The integrated instant messaging I could easilly do without... too hard to do it in both a useful and intuitive method.

      I'm probably going to implement many of these designs this summer in a cross-platform open source email client. I may use some other client as a base as I'm not familiar with POP3 or IMAP. I'll probably wind up doing this in Qt.

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  3. Sounds good, actually by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think they've done a pretty good job, actually. I particularly like the integrated encryption and spam-reporting tools. These are widely asked for by those in the business, and yet no mainstream e-mail client seems to provide them. I'm sure more people would use them if they were easily available, rather than something you have to fight for. For example, there is a helpful service for spam complaints, who amongst other things will forward the details to the relevant abuse address, but how many people know that, or where to find it?

    That said, I'd settle for just having the colour-coded "new mail" icon with the ability to hover over it and see the sender/title. At the office, where we use Outlook/Exchange Server, one of our guys tried to write a tool that hooked into Outlook and did that a while back. Unfortunately, he found insurmountable problems with the way Outlook's automation and new mail reporting features work. Too bad, as the rest of us were looking forward to him finishing it! That alone, to me, would be a major improvement. Here's hoping some of the guys at MS read the article!

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  4. Eudora by Beowulf_Boy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Eudora would be a great email client, if it weren't for a few things.
    1. I don't believe it is out for Linux
    2. Wierd ass server naming conventiongs. Your server name is usually like, mail.myrealbox.com in netscape, Yet in Eudora it ends up being, Username@imap.myrealbox.com, and sometimes that even doesn't work, its strange.
    3. Buggy as crap, and doesn't like alot of servers from what I can figure
    4. Ok, joke error messages are funny, if you know what they are supposed to mean. "I sent the password to the server, and said, shhhh, don't tell anyone, and the server said....shhhh....this ..won't work." Ok, is it a bad password, bad server naming convention, or a dozen others. I've seen it do this when I know my net connection is down, so its like, WTF!

    Good stuff
    1. multiple email boxes/servers/usernames
    2. Easy to set rules
    3. easy interface
    4. tech support is disant from the one time I used it.
    5. the only problems with the free one is that there are adds on the bottom left, very small noninvasive adds.
    6. you can do cool crap like not only mark an email as read, but mark it with 10 different colors, so you can seperate them between clients/problems or etc.

  5. Re:stored searches instead of folders by DavyByrne · · Score: 2, Informative

    The BeOS has enabled you to do just this since day one. In Be, every email is just a file. Because of the uberfilesystem BFS (and its file-typing system), you can create lightning-fast queries based on the email headers, achieving exactly the result you describe--no specialized client required.

  6. Re:stored searches instead of folders by fdiskne1 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The Groupwise Client already does this. I agree, it's great!

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  7. Re:Let me IGNORE HTML mail! by cxvx · · Score: 2, Informative

    KMail allows you to do that:

    You can prefer plain-text over HTML, enable HTML but not letting it pull external resources (webbugs, images,...) or just accept it al. You can also enable HTML on a folder basis, wich is nice for some legit HTML newsletters I recieve

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  8. No IMAP support ?!?! by HEbGb · · Score: 2, Informative

    I just downloaded it and started setting it up, and found out that there's no imap support (unless it's seriously buried). A 'serious' email client that won't even do imap support? No thanks. There's no way I'm going back to POP3.

    If they did support it, I'd certainly consider dumping Netscape/Moz for The Bat.

    1. Re:No IMAP support ?!?! by Arthur+Dent+75 · · Score: 2, Informative
      Of course The Bat! supports IMAP. Just select it in the account settings ("Account" - "Properties") on the "Transport" tab. There you can choose from POP3 and IMAP4.

      This does not mean that the IMAP support is good. It just supports the POP3 style of polling. There is no way to control the folder structure from The Bat!. So I would not yet choose The Bat! if I'm looking for good IMAP support. But The Bat! has improved in the past, so I'm sure they are going to listen to what the users say. And this is definitely a large problem.

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  9. Re:Mutt? by Fweeky · · Score: 3, Informative

    Maildrop may be a reasonable replacement to the procmail part, since procmail's rather messy and has a filter language that would make Larry Wall blush.

  10. Mulberry by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 4, Informative


    I am surprised to not see Mulberry suggested. It's one of the few email clients (if not the only email client) specifically designed from the ground up for use with IMAP. It's fast, reliable. It doesn't fully support HTML mail (a good thing). It has versions for almost every platform - Win, Mac OS 9, Mac OS X, Linux, Solaris.

    I've been using Mulberry for a year and a half now, and there is no way I would go back to Exchange or Eudora (whose crappy behavior started me looking for an alternative).

  11. Re:Actually, Sylpheed will do this by rifter · · Score: 3, Informative

    Forget Outlook. If rules are what you are after, and scoring, and colouring, sylpheed-claws is the answer. These features may end up in the main sylpheed, as well.

  12. Re:Let me IGNORE HTML mail! by Shiny+Metal+S. · · Score: 3, Informative

    I am sick of getting HTML spam that automatically starts banging on my net connection, even before I get chance to blacklist the appropriate site through Junkbuster.

    When there's something like this in the email:

    <img src="http://www.xxx/is-alive.cgi?a=your@email">

    and your client loads this image, they know someone is reading their spam at your address and they can log that your address is worth spamming, for future spam or selling it to other spammers. So your stolen bandwidth is actually a little problem, automatically rendering html email has much more serious problems than wasting the bandwidth. It's like a return receipt request which you can't ignore. A return receipt which is not sent by email but directly through tcp/ip, so the email sender knows your geographical location, your ISP, etc.

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  13. Evolution by halfelven · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well, if you're stuck with Exchange, you can still use Linux. ;-)
    Just take a look at Evolution
    It's as close to Outlook as any application can be, but runs on Linux and now it can act as an Exchange client. Yes, that means you can use Evolution with Exchange for everything: e-mail, calendar, etc., while still being able to use it as a regular POP3/IMAP client if you wish.
    Cool, huh?