Hospital Robots

bluegreenone writes: "The Washington Post has an article about hospital robots. The most interesting part was hearing the robot's 'co-workers' describe their relationship with him." Only slightly scary.

Comments

Re:Sponge bath anyone??

[larien]

Since the robot is loaded up by a person and the route programmed in by that person, I don't see that being a problem. Of course, the person probably reads stuff off from a computer system which could be hacked. However, it's locked in a safe which (hopefully) the patients can't access. Finally, it isn't delivering "narcotics" (and some other drug types) which kinda rules out morphine and other dangerous stuff.

what about the human side

[tanveer1979]

The technology and all is okay, but healing is not just medicines. Having a nurse to talk to and do the psychological healing is very important for a patient.

In a hospital its not just the medicines which cure you, it has to come from inside too. If Robots are used extensively it can create a sort of coldness which wont be really good, especially for patients who are under depression

Scary?

[lameland]

How exactly is this scary? It's a robot that can deliver medication from a pharmacy to a nurse's station. The only remotely dangerous thing it does is drive down the halls. Its been programmed to avoid everything/one in the hallway, if that is not possible, it stops and announces that it can not make any futher progress without assistance.

Sounds pretty safe to me.

Re:Scary?

[CptLogic]

>>Its been programmed to avoid everything/one in the hallway, if that is not possible, it stops and announces that it can not make any futher progress without assistance.

Except the Nurse who is waiting for the drugs, and the patient who is in pain/sick (and that's what hospitals are for in the first place) are now waiting longer for the cargo to arrive than if a human who could step over the blockage/child/whatever, or otherwise work around it were delivering the payload.

If it stops and decides it cannot deliver the possible life saving drugs, because a routine says "OK, can't get through, stand still and wait for a skilled technician to help" than it's not saving time/labour it's actually hindering the smooth running of the hospital.

The only benefit this gives is the hospital can get on the news by saying "look at the cool tech we've got!".

Personally I prefer my workplace (at a Hospital) to be functional, efficient with tech where it's needed, like in the theatres, at the consultants desk, at the GP's (same as the US term MD) office down the road, etc. Not blocking my way in front of the elevators.

Chris.

Overcomplication

[CptLogic]

I happen to work in one of London's largest Hospital trusts and our site is abosultely massive. Often new starters require a long time before they can get from place to place without getting lost.
In that aspect, a robot that knew where to go and could get there quickly and reliably, delivering stuff could be useful.
However, that's what Porters are for, and for things like Medical Records, test results and drugs, for confidentiality reasons as well as safety, only trained people are allowed to carry them anyway. No doctor here would ever let a record or result out of his/her sight without handing it over personally to the intended destination.
We're implementing IT systems that will enable these files to be transferred electronically, securely. This will free up skilled time a lot more than using a robot to carry stuff, and is easier to maintain.

Our Medical Equipment guys are busy enough fixing things like heart monitoring equipment. They really don't need to have to start fixing robots that kids or drunks or others have kicked to pieces.

The Tobor system would cause more problems than it solves by throwing a very complex solution at a very simple problem.

Better to pay a trained human to do the running or introduce it as part of a Medical degree.

Chris.

Re:Overcomplication

[3-State Bit]

You said (emphasis here and below is mine):

The Tobor system would cause more problems than it solves by throwing a very complex solution at a very simple problem.
Better to pay a trained human to do the running or introduce it as part of a Medical degree.

I just about wet myself reading this, as it is an almost thought-for-thought transcription of this anecdote regarding John von Neumann (I trust you've heard of him):

In the 1950's von Neumann was employed as a consultant to IBM to review proposed and ongoing advanced technology projects. One day a week, von Neumann "held court" at 590 Madison Avenue, New York. On one of these occasions in 1954 he was confronted with the FORTRAN concept; John Backus remembered von Neumann being unimpressed and that he asked "why would you want more than machine language?" Frank Beckman, who was also present, recalled that von Neumann dismissed the whole development as "but an application of the idea of Turing's `short code'." Donald Gillies, one of von Neumann's students at Princeton, and later a faculty member at the University of Illinois, recalled in the mid-1970's that the graduates students were being "used" to hand assemble programs into binary for their early machine (probably the IAS machine). He took time out to build an assembler, but when von Neumann found out about he was very angry, saying (paraphrased), "It is a waste of a valuable scientific computing instrument to use it to do clerical work."

source

Now think ahead 20 years.

Re:What about the healing touch?

[GungaDan]

"Studies have repeatedly shown that the 'laying on of hands' is particularly effective..."

What studies? Name sources! Studies funded by or otherwise affiliated with "Liberty University" do not count.

BTW, osteopathy, some chiropractic, and "therapeutic touch" are legit, but people refrain from calling them "laying on of hands" to avoid that "old world pentacostal charm."

elevator obstacles

[CrazyDwarf]

The article said the used to have a problem with people rushing past to get in the elevator, but now it bellies up to the elevator and waits for the door to open...
What about the people already on the elevator trying to get off?