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Cray's New Solid State Storage

Sivar writes: "Cray, a well known vendor of extremely fast supercomputing hardware, has introduced a storage system with a 224 GB capacity. The large size seems impressive, but the device can also transfer an unprecedented 80GB(!!) every second. That's more bandwidth than the main memory of most servers, and it's just for storage. For comparison's sake, a typical dual channel DDR motherboard has a bandwidth capacity of barely 4.2GB/sec." Yow.

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  1. Wow by dspeyer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm impressed.

    Of course, it probably won't work on ordinary computers (after all, sticking that onto a SCSI bus would be sort of a waste), but eventually we'll get our hands on this stuff.

    Anybody dare to ask how much it costs?

  2. Don't ask.... by rlwhite · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Nobody who has to ask what a yacht costs has any business owning one." -J.P. Morgan

    Why else do you think a company with expensive products like Cray's would avoid posting prices online?

  3. Re:Overhead time? by akula1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Since this is a solid state storage device its performance will be that of a RAM. This is the main reason why solid state storage is so attractive. There will be no read/write heads etc...

  4. Re:Slashdotted???? by TheTomcat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    netcraft says it's solaris 8 and apache.

    Of COURSE they're not hosting the machine on a cray. That's complete overkill, even for Cray themselves. The electrical costs alone would be on par with a top-of-the-line hosting package (I imagine).

    S

  5. Marketroid sense is tingling by Bastian · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ncludes a 224-gigabyte Solid State Disk (SSD) with a data transfer rate of 80 gigabytes per
    second


    can hold 27 copies of the Human Genome and transfer data at a rate equivalent to 100
    Human Genomes per second


    Ok, so can it hold more data than it can transfer in a second, or can it transfer more data in a second than it can hold? Pick one, boys.

    1. Re:Marketroid sense is tingling by lkaos · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually, I think they were fibbing and not mentioning that they meant compressed Genomes, in which case, the numbers work out perfect if they meant 270 and 100.

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      func((b += 3, b));
  6. Re:well. damn. by Jouster · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Actually, you have to email ussales@cray.com. Here's a recent email I received from them regarding prices:
    Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 12:51:56 -0600
    From: Cathy Wells
    Subject: Re: Prices
    To: Dan Reif
    Organization: Cray Inc.
    X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
    X-Cray-VirusStatus: clean

    The Cray SV-1 vector supercomputer is the current production product for vector types of application problems and most legacy Cray scientific and engineering applications. A 32 processor SV-1 with 32 megabytes of shared main memory would have a list price over $3M depending on the configuration and peripherals required.

    The Cray T3E massively parallel supercomputer continues to be the world record holder for the fastest sustained performance on a real world application. These systems can scale to over 2000 processors. An entry level configuration for the Cray T3E might start at approximately $2M with a 1000 processor system listing at over $30M depending on the configuration.

    The MTA-2 will be available 3Q 2001. It will be an all CMOS machine--much simpler to manufacture than the all GaS system at SDSC. The MTA-2 will have between 16 - 256 processors and 64 - 1024 GBytes of shared memory. We plan to build the MTA-2 in 16P cages. A case, or stack as we're calling it, will house 4 cages. The case will be approximately 3 ft wide, 5 ft deep, and 7 ft tall. It will weigh a few thousand pounds.
    Jouster
  7. core memory and persistent operating systems by dmoen · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Back in the 60's, non-volatile magnetic core memory was used instead of RAM. So the idea of non-volatile memory is actually very old.

    With virtual memory hardware, you can write an operating system that simulates non-volatile main memory, using hard disk as a backing store. What you get is a Persistent Operating System. You don't need a file system. Instead, you store data structures in main memory, and they persist forever, surviving reboots.

    Doug Moen.

    --
    I have written a truly remarkable program which this sig is too small to contain.
  8. -OT- usefulness of bioinformatics by jonbrewer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    (to diverge ever so slightly)

    "Bioinformatics is the dot-com boom all over again..."

    I think not.

    There is quite a market for bioinformatics. My employer spends around 5 billion USD a year on pharma R+D. Much of that money is used in traditional "brute-force" type attacks of screening many compounds against many targets.

    There is tremendous potential for savings through bioinformatics, and the evidence is working its way through pharma pipelines as we speak.

    While there may be as much hype around bioinformatics, the field is solving a genuine problem for a mature, well-funded industry, unlike the dot-com book which speclated on products many didn't want with money that didn't exist.

  9. Memory/RAM by sean23007 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So can we expect them to design a new type of system that has non-volatile memory and vast storage in a similar array, divvied up on the fly by the system depending on whether it needs storage or memory at the moment? I've been waiting for the day when memory and hard drive became one, and this seems to take that one step closer to the inevitable.

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    Lack of eloquence does not denote lack of intelligence, though they often coincide.
  10. Re:An interesting side effect... by Merk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That's the way PalmOS computers work today. There is no difference between your short-term storage and your long-term storage. That's why, with a Palm application, when you enter an event or click a checkbox, you don't have to "save" the results, because it's all in the same memory area.