Slashdot Mirror


Microsoft: Trust and Antitrust

Microsoft is in the news for two reasons today: the continuing saga of the antitrust cases, and Microsoft's public relations push for "trustworthy computing". A selection of links: Microsoft claims two months of code reviews and half-day seminars surpasses everything ever done by the open source community; Salon talks about the problems with a monoculture; SBC, an abusive telecom monopoly, complains about Microsoft's behavior, an abusive OS monopoly; and Microsoft responds, claiming that SBC is merely being self-serving.

16 of 518 comments (clear)

  1. Life after Microsoft by fruey · · Score: 3, Funny

    For those Francophones / Germanophones amongst us, tonight on ARTE (TV channel available on terrestrial and digital satellite) has a problem "Life after Microsoft" which should make interesting viewing. around 20:45 CET I believe.

    --
    Conversion Rate Optimisation French / English consultant
  2. Anti-trustworthy computing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    It's a good thing MS is starting to do trustworthy computing, since what they've been doing up to this point has clearly been anti-trustworthy computing

  3. Microsoft... by PhotoGuy · · Score: 5, Funny
    Man, does this quote send shivers down anyone else's spine???:

    "Geeks like learning new things, and when they pop out at the end of the process they're entirely brainwashed," he said.
    If my employer ever publicly said anything like that, I'd run for the exits.

    Wonder if the chants are part of the brainwashing process.

    Developers, developers, developers, developers.
    Developers, developers, developers, developers.
    Developers, developers, developers, developers.
    --
    Love many, trust a few, do harm to none.
  4. Re:Two months? Get real. by gewalker · · Score: 2, Funny

    Apparentlly you are wrong, Steve wouldn't lie.

    Steven B. Lipner, Microsoft's director of security assurance, responded, saying: "I'd be astonished if the open-source community has in total done as many man-years of computer security code reviews as we have done in the last two months."

  5. Re:SBC an Abusive Monopoly? by dthable · · Score: 2, Funny

    SBC has a monopoly in the telcom world?

    But that can't be. When we deregulated them, they promised to play nice.

  6. Self-Serving? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Funny
    Microsoft responds, claiming that SBC is merely being self-serving.

    So what if they're being self-serving? If everyone is being self-serving by dissing microsoft, it's obvious that microsoft is not adequately serving anyone.

    --
    "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  7. Lipner is astonished! by Dharzhak · · Score: 5, Funny

    Steven B. Lipner, Microsoft's director of security assurance, responded, saying: "I'd be astonished if the open-source community has in total done as many man-years of computer security code reviews as we have done in the last two months.

    Lipner also reacted with astonishment when he was told that professional wrestling matches are fixed.

  8. Wait a second by quantaman · · Score: 4, Funny

    several of its key program managers warned that underestimating Microsoft's ability to meet the computer security challenge might be as foolhardy as was misjudging its ability to turn itself into a dominant Internet player.

    I thought they were the default security player. Don't the vast majority of hackers break into MS boxes already?

    --
    I stole this Sig
  9. hey now! by KingPrad · · Score: 2, Funny
    what happened to honor among thieves?

    KingPrad

    --
    Stop the Slashdot Effect! Don't read the articles!
  10. This would be fun. by otomo_1001 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Stick the guy who was quoted in the article in a room with Theo De Raadt(sp?? sorry Theo) of OpenBSD fame.

    Then tape the hilarity that ensues, we could have a new weakest link on our hands. :D

    I know I'll get modded down for this, but you only live once.

  11. MicroSoft is much better at useless effort by iabervon · · Score: 3, Funny

    In those two months, MicroSoft has probably fixed more security-compromising bugs than most open source projects (expect for sendmail and BIND) will ever have. MicroSoft can put far more effort behind solving the problems that they have created for themselves that the open source community could ever hope to, both in terms of solving problems and in terms of creating them.

    The open source community is always taking shortcuts by not making every possible mistake and them fixing it. Who cares about results? MicroSoft can do more work than anybody else, and that's all that matters.

  12. Re:students view by antibryce · · Score: 2, Funny
    Not only that, but for a half day? Cmon, americans have an attention span of what? 15 sec? if that?

    Hey! I take offense at th...Oh shiney pretty things!

  13. Re:The telling statement by weave · · Score: 3, Funny
    Microsoft Triva for $100 please

    Microsoft's greatest strengths have always been the ability to see which way the ship is headed, and when it turns out they're going in the wrong direction, to turn on a dime.

    Ding Ding: What is innovation?

    Alex Trebeck: Bwahahahahahhahahahha...

  14. Re:The telling statement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    you can't just put security issues out of business.

  15. Re:Feature Freeze by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 3, Funny

    During odd minor number releases you add features.
    During even minor number releases you only fix bugs.


    Except for when you replace the entire VM system.

    --
    Fascism starts when the efficiency of the government becomes more important than the rights of the people.
  16. Re:a teacher's view... by HiThere · · Score: 3, Funny

    The trainers always claim that. To an extent, they're correct. More so if most of what they are saying is things that are "pretty much known, but not thought about recently".

    OTOH, experiments have tended to show that the total amount of genuinely new material that can be learned in a particular area (i.e., organized around and extending from some particular area) is a bit limited as a function of time. Sorry I can't remember a particular reference, but that is the gist of it.

    After learning new stuff in some area, a break with dreaming sleep is needed to consolidate the information before any more material can be learned that is directly connected to that area. Otherwise you get the "cramming" effect, where things are learned and remembered only for a short period of time, but if you check back a week or so later, most of the new information has been forgotten.

    I think that I read the synopsis of the research in Science News, but I couldn't tell you even which year to search. (And I suppose that it might have been Scientific American or somewhere else.)

    --

    I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.