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Slashback: Brilliance, Delay, Simputer

Slashback items of note tonight: One more report (the last word?) on the demise of Loki, a good move on the Brilliant/KaZaA front, and a little 12-month oopsie on the release schedule for the newest from Stephenson.

It's all fun and games until you end up in Bankruptcy. Born Game writes: "Loki was supposed to be declared dead today by the bankruptcy trustee. Dennis Powell has followed their story closely, and he has written a wrapup that will break your heart and make you mad."

I hope he's making it longer than Cryptonomicon. We reported that Neal Stephenson's new book Quicksilver was due last month. An anonymous reader pointed to this page at Amazon UK, writing "the book is due out March 6th next year, not this year. Meh."

Maybe calling it Brilliant wasn't such a bright idea. asv108 writes: "According to this article from MP3 Newswire, Cnet's Download.com has removed KaZaA media desktop due to concerns over Brilliant Digital Entertainment's hidden software."

It's still available elsewhere though; if you or someone you love wants to use such software regardless, TDScott writes: "In case anyone is having trouble convincing their friends that there's a problem with the b3d spyware installed with KaZaA, I've put together a quick summary page on what the problem is and how to remove it (use AdAware with caution) - pointing people to it might save you hours of explanation."

I hope these are available stateside, too. Pankaj writes "Simputer is All set to hit the market in India. The Open Source Computer (Both Hardware/Software) Has found its first makers in Encore Solutions who will start selling it within the next one month. {sources internal}. This will give the iPaq and Palms a run for their money, as the simputer is loaded with features like internal modem, smartcard reader and usb port. There are plans to add a gsm phone into it too -- watch out, Nokia! And one third the price; it's supposed to be 10,000 Indian Rupees. Thats around $210 try comparing it to the ipaq.

Did you ask what it is based on? It's Linux 2.4, man, with gtk and its developer kit it's as free as the hardware itself. This looks like hot stuff to go for.

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  1. Re:Kazaa Lite, by svferris · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Better yet, use WinMX. It's a large non-distributed network with a lot of users. The program runs SO much faster than Kazaa.

    Overall, I stay away from anything running Gnutella or some other distributed network. I get so many packets running through my computer that I can't get anything else done.

  2. Re:In related news by aberkvam · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah, people might want to see your post. And they might want to see goatse, MAKE.MONEY.FAST, or adds for the X10 camera. The fact remains that most users that click on the link to see commentary that is related to the article. Offtopic posts are generally as welcome as the items I just listed because we aren't expecting them and they are only wasting our time. If we wanted to read about a topic, we would search that topic out. Why not post your informations where people might be expecting it or perhaps submit it as a story? Thanks.

  3. Loki by RatBastard · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Loki was not killed by a market not willing to buy their goods, though that did have some small contribution. It was killed by the absolute criminal incompitence of it's president.

    I feel sorry for the people who Loki owes money to. I feel no pity at all for Loki.

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  4. What I would like to know... by manly_15 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...is what the official Cnet policy will be. Does this mean that Cnet will remove all programs with known spyware? Does this represent a shift in large corporations towards the anti-spyware movement? I shall wait and see...

  5. Why Loki REALLY went under by OccSub · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Nobody is going to wait for a company to port games over to Linux if they can boot up Windows on the same box. If Loki perhaps pursued licencing good games exclusively for Linux... then they would probably have had a better chance.

  6. on losing by drDugan · · Score: 3, Insightful


    Said one, "All we lost was money. Scott lost his friends."


    ... Scott should lose his right to be with us anymore. He should be in prison, based on that story.

  7. loki by spir0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    perhaps another failing - other than scott - is that MOST linux users still think that free software means you don't have to pay money and would pirate loki games on the principle that everything should be free.

    they would probably have doubled their sales if it wasn't for the users.

    not that it would have helped loki, but I think that if someone else were to consider doing something similar to loki, they'd seriously have to think about it. their target audience don't like paying money, or are running their OS because they simply don't have the money.

    linux users need to get out of that mentality for their own computing future to be fruitful.

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  8. Even if they didn't give them away for free... by sterno · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let's say they were charging $50/copy and they sold 5000 copies (which seemed to be a reasonable expectation given what the report said). At that price and volume, that's $250,000 per title.

    Now, figure that each title is going to take 3 or 4 developers. Let's say that each is paid $96K/year (for math simplicity) in salary and benefits, that would come down to approximately $8000/month per employee or roughly $32,000/month for each team. My numbers are totally coming out of thin air, but not unreasonable. At that burn rate you can afford to spend 7 months in development of each game with some room for some sort of profit.

    Of course that base price isn't accounting for a lot of the company infrastructure. You have to afford a place to work, computers, a network connection, marketing, packaging, etc. You'll need an office manager, somebody to run the website, and a couple other odds and ends. So probably, in the grand scheme of things, you're talking at least $50K/month burn rate. As you develop more games, the overhead is probably reduced somewhat but this is a reasonable baseline.

    So now, suddenly you are down to 5 months of development time. Ohhhh wait, you forgot to license that game, didn't you? Well that's going to shave a few bucks off each copy of the game, and now suddenly you are in the red assuming that you can get the game ported from start to finish in 5 months.

    My numbers aren't necessarily realistic, but I think they are close enough to reality to illustrate that this is, at best, a razor thin business to be in.

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    1. Re:Even if they didn't give them away for free... by D.A.+Zollinger · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Unfortunately, even though you pay $50 per copy at the store, most of that goes to the store, the warehouse, the distributor, the company that presses the CDs, etc. I ended up purchasing a copy of Railroad Tycoon 2 for Linux for less than $10 at E.B. because they had held on to it for too long, and they just wanted to reduce inventory. You know what is sad? E.B. probably covered their costs by selling it at $10.

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  9. Re:Dimensions od Simputer? by pamri · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Simputer.org has more details than encore's site. Here are the specs, along with dimensions. BTW, even though the text to speech is available only in 2 languages (hindi & kannada), you can write your own text to speech engine, since it is completely open.

    You can help the organisation either financially or by developing applications. Follow for more details including a mailing list for developers.

    And do remember, it's target audience is farmers, small traders in developing countries. So, they require applications for these groups. For example, they are trying to developing financial applications that can give details about microcredit transactions of a villager in India, or one that gives details about land records, simple things else-where, but for which the bureaucracy has complicated procedures.

  10. Re:Thank you Loki programmers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Yes. Thanks indeed! I got 2 of your excellent products (so much for Linux users not willing to pay). Your work is doubly impressive if one considers the conditions of utter criminal mismanagment you had to overcome.

    Kudos and may luck be with you in your further ventures whatever they might be!