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Google Publicizes DMCA Takedowns

dmarti writes "In an apparent response to criticism of its handling of a threatening letter from a Church of Scientology lawyer, the popular search engine Google has begun to make so-called "takedown" letters public. DMCA-censored pages are now two clicks and a cut-and-paste away from the regular search results."

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  1. first result when search google for 'DMCA' is... by IanA · · Score: 4, Interesting
  2. Go Oogle! by Mr_Perl · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Thanks to a bright suggestion, I and probably lots of others have started linking to scientology to help bump xenu.net up in the search engine listings.

    It's now number 2 in the rankings which is 3 spots higher than a few weeks ago so perhaps this small form of protest is also working!

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  3. Re:Soo.... by Crash+Culligan · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Google merely posted a link to a copy of the church's DMCA warning letter, which itself links to a list of the "offending" links.

    That makes the DCMA warning letter itself a sort of circumvention device.

    Ahhhhh, sweet irony...

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  4. What about searches coming from Canada? by Dick+Click · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hmm. I have read a search for "site:xenu.net scientology" links to the takedown letters. When I try this search, the first hit is www.xenu.net. I wonder if this is because I am redirected to www.google.ca? Anybody have any idea if a search coming from Canada acts differently than a search coming from the US?

  5. It works, but who the hell searches like that? by mbauser2 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Don't search for "xenu.net Scientology", search for "site:xenu.net Scientology". You have to include the "site" keyword. The notice is at the bottom of the results page.

    I don't think many people are going to see these DMCA notifications, because I don't think that many people search this way. If they know a given site has information on a topic, most of them go straight to the site, don't they?

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  6. Re:Let me browse SlashDot with a delay by GSloop · · Score: 4, Interesting

    OT I know.

    The ranking system for stories should prevent modding for say, three hours, so all the really good comments could have fair play for Karma, as well as just good visibility.

    It would also tend to depreciate the short "no-brainers" everyone posts in sort of a FP, but semi-thoughtout mentality.

    I can't monitor /. continuously, and find it annoying that on a subject I have some decent input, the story is already 2+ hours old, and I might as well not even bother posting comments. They won't get any moderation, and almost never any discussion. That's too bad, because it tends to depreciate the value of /. (not that there's not enough of that these days anyhow... :( )

    To recap, prevent moderation on a new story for at least 3 hours after it appears.

    I've got some other good ideas at least IMHO too, but I can't remeber them right now.

    Cheers!

  7. Hint.. by BLKMGK · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Try finding the voting record for the DMCA. Supposedly, and I've not been able to confirm this, it was passed via VOICE VOTE - no record. However when asked th elawyer who presented on the DMCA in Las Vegas at DEFCON about this he said that it had been passed normally I believe. Anyone know the real answer - and better yet have the real voting record for this damned albatross?! If I find out that ANY of my reps voted for it I can promise they will NOT get my next vote for sure!

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  8. DOH! Crossposted! by BLKMGK · · Score: 3, Interesting

    But what's your source? All I've ever gotten has been RUMINT and when I asked the lawyer (Dario D. Diaz* - still have his card) in 'Vegas about it he seemed pretty certain that it was a normal vote. Since he'd researched the damned thing (boat hull design provision?!) and had just given a presentation on it I figured he must know more than me and didn't argue with him. I'd love to get a definative answer on this - and better yet a voting record. Can anyone help with solid info?

    *www.fernandez-diaz-law.com is the URL on his card :-)

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    1. Re:DOH! Crossposted! by Rick+the+Red · · Score: 4, Interesting
      A search on Thomas found this:

      The Senate passed it 99-0.

      The House held a voice vote, near as I can tell. My search ("digital millennium copyright" in the Word/Phrase search field) returned:

      1. H.R.2281 : To amend title 17, United States Code, to implement the World Intellectual Property Organization Copyright Treaty and Performances and Phonograms Treaty.
      Sponsor: Rep Coble, Howard- Latest Major Action: 10/28/1998 Became Public Law No: 105-304.
      Committees: House Judiciary; House Energy and Commerce; House Ways and Means
      A search of the House site found no recorded vote on H.R.2281. So apparantly both stories are true: It was a voice vote, but the Senate recorded theirs.

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  9. Re:Agreed by blamanj · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm not sure I could think of any other response that Google could've made that would have been any better.

    I can think of one thing that would be better. If they would also create Google page listing ALL takedowns due to DMCA. It could be on their about page.

  10. Re:The Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I love how the letters show conclusively that the OT III docs about Xemu are indeed part of their Advanced Technology. You cannot believe the number of newbie scientologists who believe that Xemu is some lie that anti scientologists invented to make scientology look bad. By the time they themselves are presented with OT III by the Co$ they are already brainwashed enuf to believe anything.

    These letters can provide proof to the new people who joined scientology (before they are brainwashed) that the Co$ is indeed a ufo cult. Thank you Korbin for providing the proof proof that you are indeed a UFO cult, as well as the copyright number that was granted for OTIII. Also thanks for providing the proof of "dead agenting" and other practices of your cult.

    You gotta love it when the Co$ lawyers only end up adding credibility to the critics claims by documenting that they are indeed Co$ doctrine, and citing the source of the doctrine.