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Hollings Introduces Privacy Bill

Dynedain writes "Senator Disney (aka Hollings) is apparently trying to get on techies' good side. ZDnet is reporting he is proposing a bill for 'net privacy' requiring opt-in agreements when companies want to sell 'sensitive' information (medical history, sexual preference, etc.) and opt-out agreements when selling non-sensitive (buying habits). US Chamber of Commerce is opposing this." Another article on Newsbytes notes that there are likely to be several privacy bills floating around, offering different levels of actual protection.

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  1. I'm Psychic by 4of12 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Holling's move makes more sense than you realize.

    I commented several months ago about this but couldn't find it using the search engine, so I'll just repeat, roughly, what I said earlier.

    Privacy advocates and advocates of Content Use Restriction (DRM) have a shared goal.

    You, the liberty loving individual, don't want big bad governments and corporations using data about you without your permission. You want control over that data.

    Purveyors of digitized content don't want tiny bad people "pirates" using their data without their permission. They want control over that data.

    A rock-solid data tagging and protection system, (you know, the impractical kind) would provide a means to meet not only the needs of individuals seeking ownership and protection of their own data from duplication, but would simultaneously provide similar technology to media distributors seeking ownershop and protection of their data from duplication.

    When I first realized this I was kind of taken aback, because, like many here, I've always place a higher value on the protection of my data than on the protection of someone else's data. That same disconnect will continue to confuse many advocates on both sides of the issue.

    My own view is pragmatic: if it were easily possible to protect data this way, fine. But it's not. Once it's out there, it's beyond your control, just as for millenia, your spoken and written words have been able to disseminate beyond your control.

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    "Provided by the management for your protection."
  2. Re:A stopped clock is right twice a day... by VAXman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What's the difference between the two bills? The first proposes massive government regulation and controls on makers of technology in order to enforce copyright protection. The second nill also proposes massive government regulation and controls on makers of technology in order to force privacy.

    Why should the government support massive regulation dictating how companies build internet products, all in the name of protecting piracy? That's just as patently riduclous as forcing hardware makers to include copyright controls on their products.

    The government should keep its hands out of technology, period.

  3. Do hold a grudge!!! by Evro · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Then when he gets all the techies to support this bill, he'll attach the SSSCA/CDBITPA as a rider. Then what? Gonna do a 180?

    I find it suspicious that after such a pro-corporation bill, he's proposing a pro-consumer one. Either he has a bizarre set of values or he's trying to gain favor for some reason. Either way, I think his past track record should speak for itself. There are other privacy bills; perhaps Mr. Rick Boucher will propose one that's worthy. He seems to be the only congressperson with any sense of technology/privacy issues at all.

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    rooooar
  4. Re:Don't hold a grudge!!! by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Listen, if Hollings is sponsering this bill because he wants to "make-up" with the tech-community, then the worst thing the tech-community can do is continue to boycott him.

    If he wants to make up with me he needs to denounce the SSSCA as blatently unconstitutional and vow to never sponsor a bill remotely like it again. Then he'll graduate into my "I won't vote for you but I won't do everything in my power to stop you" category.

    Don't make it personal, it's simply politics. We just have to play the game.

    And the rules of the game say that once you sponsor nonsense like the SSSCA you're ejected. And you can't get back in no matter how much you apologize. It's too late. You lose. If you want a place in politics, apologize for your misdeeds and go work for someone else's campaign. If you apologize I'll consider voting for someone you support.

  5. Re:Don't hold a grudge!!! Transparency by DGolden · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Note: I'm not in the US, but US decisions have a way of being passed off as law in the EU... so this still concernes me.

    I'm a techie, AND I DON'T WANT "PRIVACY". I want _balance_. If someone has information about me, I want access to information on them. I DON'T want the RIAA/whoever to be able to make any deals with ANYONE behind closed doors.

    Total Societal Transparency.

    Let _everyone_ know everything, if they want to. If a corporation has data on its customers, then the corporation should not be allowed any meetings behind closed doors.

    Extreme example for illustrative purposes: surveillance cameras everwhere. Oh no! people cry... BUT: make the network Public Access, so that anyone, not just a privileged few, can tap in and keep an eye on what people are doing - and don't forget, other people will be able to see you watching, so don't be a perv.... i.e. it's a self-correcting way to run a society.

    See David Brin's book, "The Transparent Society: Will Technology for us to choose Between Freedom And Privacy?".

    Chapter one is available on-line here - I suggest all Techies read it rather than believing Privacy is necessarily a good thing.

    If the choice becomes "Privacy or Freedom", I'm for Freedom.

    How far would the RIAA or the WTO get if every person on earth was potentially privy to every bit of their meetings? All they usually currently give out is what they say happened, after the fact...

    Privacy is what gives them their political edge. We should be fighting to destroy privacy, not uphold it.

    And to be fair, we shouldn't want to hold onto our own privacy either. Paraphrasing Brin: "People always want privacy for themselves and accountability from other people - some people, even quite well-meaning and intelligent people [me: EFF?], do not see that their own position is illogical, asking for greater openness from others, and privacy for themselves"

    Maybe Hollings has cottoned on to that, and is chucking away at the naive techies right now...

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    Choice of masters is not freedom.