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VoIP at $15 a Pop

AndersBrownworth writes: "Creative has released what they are calling the VoIP Blaster, a $15 USB device (2 for $20) that lets you plug in a normal POTS type telephone and make Voice-over-IP calls to anyone on the Internet. Creative has some closed source software with it that they manage to sneak per call charges in with, but ignoring that one can install the open source fobbit software and do point-to-point unmetered VoIP calls to anyone else with a G.723.1 codec VoIP phone. I just got off a NC to CA call placed from behind a firewall and the quality rocked. It sounded far better than a cell phone. The Fobbit software is fairly solid on FreeBSD and Windows with a couple bugs in the Linux port." This device has been out for a while now, with mixed reviews, at least with the included software, but it's nice to see this effort to turn off the meter.

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  1. harges for calls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    It looks like charges are for calls to ordinary phones, where someone has to provide the interface to the POT system.

  2. Re:Closed Source by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    According to the Creative website, you are only charged if you try to call a POTS line. This is handled by a third party service that can connect you to pots lines all around the world. Currently long distance calls to US pots lines are $0.05 per minute. Mexico City is $0.15.

  3. fobbit fxo and pots lines by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    The main problem with the VB is that it is only an FXS (foreign exchange service), not an FXO (foreign exchange office). Which means that it cannot be connected to a pots line without blowing up the unit. I am working on a way to create a software based FXO using the VB and fobbit. For the unoficial fobbit faq and more info on other projects, go to:

    http://www.omikrontech.net/madmax/mai/fobbitfaq.ht ml -d4emon

    1. Re:fobbit fxo and pots lines by Telecommando · · Score: 3, Informative

      Software based FXO? To be an FXO you'll need hardware ring detection and some way to protect the VB from being damaged by the ringing voltages. Unless you're not really trying to be an FXO, just looking for a way to seize the line.

      It can be done with off the shelf hardware. Just off the top of my head I'd say for starters you'll need something like a pair of Tellabs 6131 2W-4W cards with 6008B FXO - E&M subboards wired back to back along with the appropriate power supplies. This allows both the phone line and the VB to think they're connected to a phone.

      Then you'll have to figure out some kind of answer supervision to connect the two lines when when it rings from either end. Probably not too hard, simple logic would do it or a PIC microcontroller. Dial the number, rings once and connects you to the other circuit, dial again to get your called party.

      Oh, and since you won't have an actual phone attatched to the circuit you'll need a way to figure out when the call is ended so you can disconnect. FXO circuits usually detect when the call is completed by the lack of loop current when you hang up the phone, which you won't have in this application. This is where it gets tricky. Some phone systems will reverse the battery to disconnect the call but what does the VB do?

      As I said, this is just off the top of my head. Haven't put a FXO or FXS card in service for years, Used to install them on microwave and T1s all the time to bypass toll charges across LATAs. Now we just feed the phone switches directly into the fiber we lease between sites and bypass the telcos all together.

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  4. Re:Cool, we just need to add encryption by peddrenth · · Score: 3, Informative

    Is that not what PGPFone does?

    I've not used PGPFone yet (got it installed but nobody to call) but that's supposed to do encrypted phone calls over the internet, using your normal headset, and without paying for phone calls, hardware, or software.

    That also adds a secure connection ontop any normal phone conversation.

  5. "It sounded far better than a cell phone" by numb · · Score: 3, Informative

    What kind of cell phones do you got in the US? VoIP phone sounds better than a cell phone? Atleast in Europe, the GSM-900 and GSM1800 (G3 UMTS - under testing) the quality rocks. Either its good quality or no connection.

    Maybe the people in the US need to switch from the old, now defunct smoke signals to digital cell phones?

    Europe, Asia and Australia have had it for quite a time already.

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  6. VoIP? Give me a break! by opticool · · Score: 3, Informative

    Without QoS this just will not work. Typical RTD throught the Internet is in excess of 200 ms. For anything near PSTN voice quality, you would need something around 50 ms. ...sorry, you can't call the fire department, your ISP is down

  7. Editors got it wrong AGAIN by CaseyB · · Score: 5, Informative
    Creative has some closed source software with it that they manage to sneak per call charges in with,

    Only for VoIP-to-PSTN calls, that require servers to handle the switching.

    but ignoring that one can install the open source fobbit software and do point-to-point unmetered VoIP calls to anyone else with a G.723.1 codec VoIP phone.

    Which are free with the Creative software. This software won't save anyone a dime in call charges.

    What it adds is support for firewalls, and allows you to use the device without registering with a credit card. It loses the ability to do PSTN calls.

  8. Re:Security issues by rhost89 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Simple, just tunnel it through ssh, as long as you can figure out what TCP ports your using, it shouldnt be a big deal at all.

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  9. Is slashdot looking over my shoulder? by IpSo_ · · Score: 5, Informative

    My VoIP Blasters just arrived last night, and I had a few hours to play with one of them.

    The long and short of it is, if your only making calls in North America (from North America) its a waste of time and money. Theres enough flat rate/unlimited calling plans that will be cheaper, and better quality. I have a 1.5mbit/640kbit DSL line and making a call 400km's away up here in Canada was not that great. I would guess the latency was around 150-200ms, and even though I could hear the other party crystal clear 99.9% of the time, they complained my voice was "choppy" and it would miss the first/last bit of whatever I said. (silence detection I assume)

    The Windows software is a little clumsy as well, it seemed difficult to control it entirely from the phone, without touching the computer. I'm guessing PC to PC calls (less latency,and not gateways in between trying to minimize network bandwidth) would be much better with this device, as I think the main problem was with InnoSpheres network.

    There is something really cool about your cordless phone being plugged in to your computer and dialing 192#168#1#1, only to have the phone connected to that computer ring. :)

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  10. From a long time User. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've been using the Creative VoIP for a while so let me share my experiences. I bought my first units >9 months ago and between me and my friends to whom I've recommended this we've purchased 25 units. (I'm not kidding.) Because it isn't available globally, I've had to personally purchase most of them and ship it to globally. It used to be $20 a unit then.

    They are currently being used in the US, UK, India and Australia. Most of them are on POTS* 33.6 kbps Dial-up. I have a unit at home on DSL and one at work. Any one of my friends can connect to the net and call me. I also take one with e when I travel Internationally since it is cheaper to dial into the net locally and use this to make calls to the US!

    The software allows you two modes of operation, PC to PC, which is between two VoIP units and PC-Phone which requires you to set up an account before you can proceed but allows you to call any POTS phone. The unit includes a Card for $5 worth of calls. although it says it expires on November 5th 2001, it still works. (Not a bad deal, if you consider you can purchase 2 for $20 and get $10 worth of calls)

    When making PC-PC calls, there is very little lag. Occasionally, from the dial-up end, there will be a break of a second or two and the next bit will contain both the current and lapsed conversation overlaid together.

    PC-Phone calls to the US are quite good, with a slightly higher lag. I often receive calls on my mobile phone and that increases the lag a bit, with compression on both ends! Calls to the UK are just as good. Calls to other countries are much more expensive and the lag is greater.

    I've noticed several questions being asked why is this required, Why cant you use a headset/mic & free software.

    Compared to any of the net services such as Net2Phone, Dialpad, etc., The quality is much better. I often get quality that is equal to long distance calls (figures, since the Telcos use compression to, some of the IP based). It is also much convenient to be speaking into a phone rather than a Headset/Mic. If you have broadband and are connected to the net always, you can use it like a regular phone. Pick-up and dial. anyone who wants to speak to you just has to call your number and it will ring. You have a choice of phones, I personally use it at home with a 2 line cordless, one for POTS and the other for VoIP. A friend I gave it to uses it connected to the office EPABX.

    The unit is not perfect and has it's drawbacks. Although I've never had to call support, the word is it's bad. This could be because it's just an OEM product Creative re-brands. Email support, which I have used, is decent but takes 2-3 days for an answer. It's is handled by the OEM manufacturer InnoMedia. They also provide the PC-Phone service called Innosphere. Because it uses different ports each time it makes a connection, it is difficult to get it working behind a NAT/Router or a Firewall. When I need to use it in the Office, I temporarily open up the Firewall. It is not H.323 compliant. It works with Windows only. There is no driver for Linux or the Mac. Both users need the same hardware to talk**. And of course, your computer has to be on at all times.

    There are other alternatives. Aplio (http://www.aplio.com/) makes a self contained unit which has an inbuilt Modem and Ethernet connection. No computer required, just a phone. It however costs $200 - $300. What would be nice is if all the different VoIP providers would standardize on a common interface to allow you to talk to using a different device. Just like email or POTS.

    I have just started experimenting with Fobbit (http://www.fobbit.com/). A person I recommended VoIP to is using it (VoIP & Fobbit) to provide calls between two users across the company VPN. There is also a project for VoIP Blaster integration into Open H.323 at SourceForge (http://sourceforge.net/projects/voip-blaster/)

    Spock

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    *POTS - Plain Old Telephone Service

    **InnoMedia, the manufacturers, have a software equivalent called BuddyTalk (http://www.buddytalk.com/). Although at launch time it was not compatible with the VoIP unit, when I contacted them last year, they told me that they were working on a new version of both the BuddyTalk and VoIP software that would allow communication between both platforms and also work behind NAT/Routers and Firewalls. It was to be out 'Real Soon Now'.

  11. Re:Virtual PC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I seem to recall hearing that a port of Fobbit is in progress for XDarwin.

  12. Re:Nice, but... by DavidTC · · Score: 2, Informative
    Erm, in what way?

    While you need a license to operate a ham radio, I would be very amazed if you needed one to stand next to a ham radio and talk. You just need the licensed operator there also, to operate the radio.

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  13. 3rd party traffic by wizzy403 · · Score: 2, Informative

    In the US, as long as there is a licensed operator at both stations to come on and give a callsign id every 10 minutes (time may be off, don't have a manual in front of me) then it's all good. My club used to run 3rd party traffic calls to the "North Pole" for the local children's hospital at Xmas time every year. Perfectly legal under FCC rules. There used to be a bunch of questions specifically about this on the old Technician exam (or tech + now)

  14. Re:free phone? by DT1978 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Net2Phone is still free for 5 minutes. As far as I know, nobody else gives you free time anymore.