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Venter's DNA Major Source of Celera's Database

dh003i writes "According to this article, Dr. Craig Venter's DNA is the major source of Celera's database of the human genome. Interesting stuff." Includes interviews with lots of aggravated geneticists.

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  1. second by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    post!

  2. lies, deceit and trickery in the OSDN TOS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    First, let's look at the TOS, As available here:
    OSDN is a website owned and operated by VA Software Corporation, for the purpose of fostering software development and content creation under Open-Source Initiative ("OSI")-approved licenses or other arrangements relating to software and/or content development that may be approved by OSDN (the "Purpose")
    ...yet OSDN enterprise solutions are not under "OSI-approved licenses", thus do precisely the opposite of the suggested purpose of OSDN.
    If required by the site in question, each user must: (a) provide true, accurate, current and complete information on the Service's registration form (collectively, the "Registration Data") and (b) maintain and promptly update the Registration Data as necessary. If, after investigation, we have reasonable grounds to suspect that any user's information is untrue, inaccurate, not current or incomplete, we may suspend or terminate that user's account and prohibit any and all current or future use of the Services (or any portion thereof) by that user other than as expressly provided herein.
    That's right. A condition of service is that you must provide correct personal data on request, regardless of whether it is clearly necessary to go about your business or not. Some privacy there, eh?
    OSDN, in its sole and absolute discretion, may preserve Content and may also disclose Content if required to do so by law or judicial or governmental mandate or as reasonably determined necessary by us to protect the rights, property or personal safety of OSDN, its users and the public.
    That's right, OSDN may disclose information arbitrarily not only if required to do so by law, but also to "protect the... property... of OSDN". That is to say, to protect its profits. How many times have a company done that before?
    With respect to text or data entered into and stored by publicly-accessible site features such as message boards and bug trackers ("OSDN Public Content"), the submitting user retains ownership of such OSDN Public Content; with respect to publicly-available statistical content which is generated by the site to monitor and display project activity, such content is owned by OSDN. In each such case, the submitting user grants OSDN the royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive and fully sublicensable right and license to use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform and display such Content (in whole or part) worldwide and/or to incorporate it in other works in any form, media, or technology now known or later developed, all subject to the terms of any applicable Open Source Initiative-approved license.
    Is that clear? Any licence in which rights to any of the above are specifically granted, are implicitly granted to VA Software.
    OSDN reserves the right to mark as "inactive" and archive accounts and/or projects that are inactive for an extended period of time.
    Similar to the MSN Hotmail arbitrary account cancellation, woe betide anyone whose definition of "extended" is longer than OSDNs! Now, let's look at the Privacy Policy:
    User names and email addresses (as well as any additional information that a user may choose to post) are publicly available on the OSDN site, unless a user elects to "opt-out" of such display of personal information.
    Let's make that absolutely clear. Your e-mail address is publically available unless you opt out. That's right. Like Yahoo, you have to explicitly opt out -- not opt in. And it's not just available to selected "marketing partners", but everyone.
    Profile Display: In some cases, users' personal information may be publicly available through a user's profile display. In such cases, users have the option to opt out of publicly displaying their real names.
    So, the "opt out" rule isn't limited to e-mail addresses. This is actually very significant -- see the quote below.
    At no time, unless such disclosure is required by law or a user specifically authorizes such disclosure, will OSDN disclose individual user personal information that is not publicly available to unrelated third parties.
    Since so many names and addresses are available "to unrelated third parties" (i.e. if people have not opted out), this clause specifically allows such information to be distributed to specific third parties (such as bulk mail distributors).

    Ok, that's all for now. More to come soon, if I have the time.

  3. Are these jew scientists? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Just because...

    mmm`kay

  4. On a related note.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    That toxin that's in fried carbohydrates is a substance that is used in the processing of DNA. Anyone out there ever spill that stuff on yourself and recall feeling the same after eating a bunch of potato chips? I honestly do feel ill after eating chips and other fried stuff. Espiecially donuts. Sometimes after eating a donut, I feel pretty much incapacitated.

  5. Just generate a random login by haedesch · · Score: 0, Offtopic
  6. BECAUSE. by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If they were asking for a $5, or hell, even a $100 subscription, I'd be pissed... but not complaining. See, that makes sense. They want money, and they insist on getting it from you, if you want to read their crap. It's easy to be pissed at that, but hard to argue about it.

    Actually though, they want you to register. Put all your personal information in... and they don't even do checks for duplicates, bullshit info... nothing. Supposedly it doesn't matter. In which case, it leads me to believe that
    A) They don't need our info at all, they merely want some very general registration statistics
    or
    B) They're up to no good with out personal info, and if 1 out of 100 people fill it out with bullshit, it's not enough to worry about.

    A is worth complaining about, because it's like going to the grocery store, and having them insist on seeing 5 forms of identification, 3 with pictures, social security numbers, birth certificate, and the last 6 months worth of electric bills complete with your current address. It's not necessary, it's a burden, it means that I'll avoid it and never buy anything there... and it's so fucking stupid that someone deserves to be bitch-slapped for it. Tell the truth, if they did that at your grocery store, and its the only one for miles around, so you're forced to go there, you'd bitchslap the store manager, wouldn't you?

    And as for B, that possibility is downright scary. Do I even need to explain it?

  7. TACO'S WIFE !! yabba yabba yabba. riki tiki tavi! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
  8. Re:Hey Taco by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Just use the Overrated or Redundant moderation.

  9. Link to a NYtimes random login generator by haedesch · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I already posted one but someone modded it offtopic, So not many people will read it.
    http://www.rds-clan.be/hermes/nyt.html

  10. For your convenience, a bogus NY Times account by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    userid: bogus1010
    passwd: bogus1010

    the way to remember it is that 1010 binary is
    hexadecimal 'a'.

    bogus, eh?

  11. Re:Wow, another NYT story. by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Wow, not only did I get my first "first post" ever... but it is so damn close to getting every single moderation. Please, someone... give it a flamebait or insightful. :)

    You know you're on to something, when the moderation is so ambiguous. Hehehe...

  12. Re:For those who wish not to register by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Time to shut this site down for violation of the DMCA.

  13. Re:Hey Taco by TedCheshireAcad · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I agree.

    -1: Karma Whoring
    -1: Moron

    are both needed.

  14. Re:Doesn't suprise me in the least by TedCheshireAcad · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    How many times can you possibly post in one article?

    And get rid of that fscking plug sig!

  15. Re:Ethical Indicator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    In previewing this comment I am struck with the fact that you are neither economist, ethicist, nor scientist.

  16. Beam his genome to Andromeda by Aceticon · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    We can just bean Venter's genome to Andromeda.

    Then the Andromedans will mix his genome with Andromedan genome and create a being that looks like an Andromedan fashion model but is actually an horrible monster inside

  17. Re:Wow, another NYT story. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Because if I wanted to read the New York Times, I would... wait for it... READ THE FSCKING New York Times.

    Slashdot. News for Nerds. Reader's Digest version of the NYT.

  18. we can finally isolate by Edmund+Blackadder · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    the bald ugly and double chin genes.