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Back on TV: Max Headroom

infofreako writes: " Everyone's favorite 80's construct, Max Headroom, has returned thanks to the people at TechTV. According to their website, they will be rebroadcasting all 14 episodes starting this Friday! This series was doing ethics themes based on designer babies, corporate controlled media, brain scanning and more before some of us were capable of hitting record on the old VCR. "

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  1. Re:Ananova by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Max Headroom wasn't animated in the sense you think, it was rotoscoped, that is, painted over real images, like the A-Ha video, remember?

  2. tech TV? by ctar · · Score: 2, Informative

    What's tech TV? Is it a real TV station? I've never heard of it...

    1. Re:tech TV? by jgerman · · Score: 3, Informative
      That's hardly true. The best shows aren't the Screensavers and Call For Help. Big Thinkers, probably the best show on the channel is probably the most Comp Sci oriented show on tv. With guests like Daniel Dennett, Bruce Sterling, and Lawrence Lessig it's a show for intelligent geeks . Extended play, is a game new/reviews tech live is good for tech news. Eyedrops runs CG movie shorts. Fresh Gear highlights new gadgets.


      contrary to the parent post all of these shows run more or less daily rather then 'every once and (uhhh try in here pal) a while'. There's plenty of substance on the channel, more so than most, and it's almost definitely my personal favorite channel.


      I should mention that the show the the parent implicity derides (The Screen Savers) is a catch all tech show with a definite pro linux slant that's well worth watching.

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  3. TechTV is owned by Paul Allen by carlivar · · Score: 2, Informative
    I was browsing around on the TechTV site, trying to figure out if my cable company carries it. I discovered a tidbit in the last paragraph of this page.

    TechTV is owned by Vulcan Inc., the Bellevue, Washington-based investment organization of Microsoft co-founder Paul G. Allen.

    Hmmm... is TechTV objective? Do they also have Apple and Open Source programming? I really don't know. Otherwise this scares me.

    Carl

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  4. Re:Ananova by CaseyB · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, it was just plain old makeup against a bluescreen for the backdrop.

  5. Re:Pirate TV by British · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can find those clips on TvParty.com.

    It's amazing how much of the series made in '85 ended up becoming so true later.

  6. Re:Pirate TV by checkitout · · Score: 5, Informative

    Thanks! here you go: Pirate TV signal on WTTW

  7. Re:Ananova by Accipiter · · Score: 5, Informative

    I mean, if the entire Titanic can realistically be rendered, why not be able to render a person in real time with realistic voice synth and physics?

    Are you serious? If you are, you obviously have absolutely no grasp of how 3D modeling works.

    Rendering something like the Titanic is easy. (Not easy in the sense that anyone with a copy of 3D Studio MAX can do it, but easy in the sense that it's just a ship.)

    When you create something in 3D like the Titanic, it's based on specifications that do not change. Lighting is constant, shapes stay the same, and moving parts are minimum.

    Compare that to attempting to duplicate a person, detailed, in 3D. People are tremendously harder to do than objects, because people automatically scrutinize other people. That's why when you look at a movie like Final Fantasy, you can say "Wow, they sure are realistic, but there's just *something* not right."

    With a person, you have to deal with mouth movement (a very difficult thing to model in 3D), eye movement, muscle expansion and contraction based on movement, bending limbs and joints, breating, and a whole host of other factors. Then when you get into voice synthesis (which is still not perfect, but AT&T is making leaps and bounds.), and physics modelling on things such as cloth and water... It's all very hard.

    So between rendering something like a ship moving through the water, or creating a realistic person in 3D, the ship is a lot easier to do. It may be painstaking in detail to create, but it's still just basic shapes.)

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  8. Re:DVD, please. by Nilatir · · Score: 3, Informative

    UHF will be out on DVD June 4, 2002

    Look here...

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  9. Biggest Max fan doesn't know? by lute3 · · Score: 2, Informative
    It looks like one of the biggest fans of Max Headroom might not yet know of the revival on the way.. MaxHeadroom.com is closed as of March, 2002.

    Anyone know is email address?

    Oh, wait.. Maybe he's still answering the webmaster address.. That appears to be (google) the email address he's been using on the site (according to a quick search).

  10. Re:wow by shepd · · Score: 3, Informative

    >wow, techtv is the best, i wish i got it where i live

    Where do you live?

    In the western hemisphere, try Satcom C4, transponder 12, or the various DSS providers.

    In asia, try AsiaSat3S [listed as encrypted :-(]. 3,760 MHz Horizontal, MPEG2/DVB, Symbol rate: 26000 FEC:7/8.

    Elsewhere, I don't know -- sorry. Since TechTV seems to be (generally) a FTA channel, you might get lucky if you check your local DVB listings...

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  11. Re:Ananova by Bios_Hakr · · Score: 3, Informative

    Even ST:TNG used a model for the Enterprise. The model was mounted, upside down, in a green room. A motion controlled camera was then used to move around the ship to create movement. Then stary backgrounds were matted onto the green field. That is why 95% of Enterprise shots are of the bottom of the ship.

    In some of the fly-bys, notably the opening credits, you can see people moving inside the Briefing Room. This was done with a green window where the briefing room window was, then stock footage of people walking around was shrunk and matted into the scene.

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  12. Re:A propos 80s: LaserDisks to FireWire, anyone? by n6mod · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is no "better than connecting it to Video-In..."

    Laserdiscs are, believe it or not, analog. (The video is, anyway, there were a few incarnations of digital audio.) Worse than that, they're composite video, so you need to decide whether the comb filter in your capture device is better than the one in your LD player. (Decide this by testing with a good monitor. Dot crawl sucks.)

    I have a pretty sizeable collection of Laserdiscs, and keep meaning to start converting these to DVDR. I have this bizarre hangup that I need to move the AC3 audio, and I haven't found any way to capture AC3 with a S/PDIF card. (Pointers appreciated!)

    The reality is that I should ignore that, since anything I might have with AC3/DTS is recent enough that it's likely to be rereleased anyway.

    Back to your question, spend as much money as you can bear on the capture device, (I have a Director's Cut, but would get a DA-MAX if I were doing this for money.) think about a proc-amp (might not be necessary) and go for it.

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  13. Re:not the original though! by awrc · · Score: 2, Informative
    And I thought the screen graphics in the original were better than what we did. For one thing, they used /real/ vector graphics in the original.

    Ah, but you've got to be careful with the original UK pilot show when it comes to what was/wasn't computer graphics.

    There were computer graphics in there, but there was also a lot of work by Rod Lord, who also did the "computer graphics" in the book sequences on the _Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy_ TV show (out on DVD in the US yesterday, for those who're interested) which weren't computer generated at all. They're generally the ones that look too good to be computer graphics :-)

  14. Re:not the original though! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Ermmmm.... yes - there was a series by channel 4... The US series came later....

  15. Re:not the original though! by Black+Art · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually there were more than one American series.

    Here is the series list:

    * The Channel 4 pilot. (later aired on Cinemax.)

    * Max Headroom - This was a video music series run on Cinemax. It had intercut bits from the Channel 4 pilot for the first three episodes. Most of them had interviews with various music celebrities. There was a heavy emphasis on golf jokes. These were about 20 minutes each..I have about 10 of these. These include music videos I have not seen elesewhere. ("Rat on a Budget" and a couple of Max Headroom songs come to mind.)

    * The Max Headroom Giant Christmas Turkey - Theis was a Max Headroom special that ran on Cinemax. VERY warped. (The only Christmas special that comes to mind with a children's choir singing about how Mary could not get an episiotomy in the manger.)

    * The Max talking Headroom Show - This ran on Cinemax and was an hour interview show. It usually had three interviews and one commedian. I only have 2-3 of these. (The interview with William Shatner was pretty bizzare.)

    * The ABC series - Ran for 14 episodes, only 13 where shown on ABC. (I have seen claims that episode 13 was not shown on ABC. I have a tape of it off of ABC. 12 & 13 were shown at real weird off times a couple of months later. Most people missed those, which is unfortunate as they were excelent.)

    One of these days I need to complete my set of episodes. I am missing a bunch of the Cinemax stuff. I have yet to find a complete list of episodes for those early shows on the net. (Or why Cinemax stopped doing original programming.)

    One of my favorite shows of all time. Now if they would just release all of it on DVD.

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