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Jordan Hubbard moves to new OpenDarwin.org

Posted by pudge on from the tis-the-work-of-satan-i-tell-ye dept.

bootc writes "Last week we heard the news that Jordan Hubbard was leaving the FreeBSD Core Team. I received an email about the new OpenDarwin.org web site and had a look around, just to find that our friend Jordan was member of the OpenDarwin Core Team!" Apple has consolidated its Open Source web site, including Darwin, under its developer site, while the Internet Software Consortium is hosting the independent OpenDarwin.org, which will develop OpenDarwin with the developer community and collaborate with Apple to merge OpenDarwin technologies into Darwin and Mac OS X.

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  1. Re:x86 by flynn_nrg · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm not sure if you are serious about this. Darwin has been running on x86 since day one!

    Read about it here

  2. Re:Darwin? We want Aqua!! by NumberSyx · · Score: 5, Informative

    IMHO, it's the lack of a good desktop (KDE is OK) that's keeping *nix from becoming the premiere desktop and Aqua could help a lot.

    I seriously doubt Apple will ever release Aqua, there are too many advantages to keeping it in house, the biggest reason being control. Apple is primarily a hardware company and they, like Sun, use software to sell thier hardware. If Aqua were released to an open source license, it would be ported to other platforms, at which point at least one reason for buying an Apple system is gone. Who would spend $1800 on an iMac when you could get similar functions from a $800 Celeron system.

    I personally think we may, in the future see some x86 OEM do something similar with Linux. Have an open source core (command line only), with a proprietary GUI on top (only sold and supported with thier hardware, no retail version), but make it easy to run X Windows concurently in rootless mode, so all the hardcore Linux users can still use thier favorite programs. I suspect someone could sell alot of hardware this way, if done right and done well.

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  3. Apple isn't about to give Aqua away by maggard · · Score: 5, Informative
    When the hell are they gonna release the source to Aqua? At least the parts that aren't licensed from other companies (like Adobe).
    1. Aqua depends on the Quartz rendering layer (Display PDF)
    2. Apple developed Quartz (Display PDF) in-house specifically in order to avoid paying licensing fees to Adobe like Next was for Display postscript
    3. The PDF spec is open for anyone else to develop their own implementation, just like Apple did
    4. Apple's implementation of Display PDF is apparently fairly MacOS X-specific and while chunks of it could likely be retargetted it's supposedly not a candidate for a direct port
    5. Apple considers the Aqua GUI their trade dress and are quite vigorous about defending it
    So, instead of whining at Apple to give away their goodies how about actually supporting the projects out there with the same aims? And instead of looking to rip-off their interface howzabout showing some initiative and coming up with a distinct sperate one - goodness knows there's enough folks happy to criticize the Aqua GUI.

    When did Open Source become gimme gimme gimme?

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  4. Sorry, C# is an ECMA standard by Ars-Fartsica · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can go off and write your own C# tools anytime you like. As long as you conform to the ECMA documents, you can claim that your tool deals with C#. Micorosft invented it but does not own it.