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Bomb-Detecting Bees

jmichaelg writes: "The NY Times is running an article on using bees to sniff out bombs. Bees can smell scents that are diluted to a few parts per billion (the Times says "few thousand parts per trillion," but what do you expect in an innumerate society?) The bees are trained to pass up flowers in favor of bombs within a couple of hours using sugar water as the reward. What I found to be one of the most interesting findings was that the bees communicate what the target scent is so you only need to teach a few bees what to look for and they'll pass the word on to rest of the colony. The Dept of Defense is developing a radio transmitter the size of a grain of salt they'll glue to the bees to communicate where the bomb is to the bee handlers."

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  1. PPQ by DaoudaW · · Score: 4, Informative

    hunt for 2,4-dinitrotoluene, or DNT, a residue in TNT and other explosives, in concentrations as tiny as a few thousandths of a part per trillion.

    Speaking of innumeracy, that would be parts per quadrillion, not parts per billion.

    1. Re:PPQ by oni · · Score: 2
      that would be parts per quadrillion, not parts per billion.


      I don't think so. Please correct me if I'm wrong here:

      1000/1,000,000,000,000
      thousand per trillion

      divided by 1000 (lose 3 zeros)

      1/1,000,000,000
      one (part) per billion
    2. Re:PPQ by NearlyHeadless · · Score: 2

      Hint: Compare "a few thousandths of a part per trillion" to "a few thousand parts per trillion".

    3. Re:PPQ by Verne · · Score: 1

      1,000 = one thousand
      1,000,000 = one million
      1,000,000,000,000 = one billion
      1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 = one trillion

      You americans are silly.

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    4. Re:PPQ by oni · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That's funny. I actually looked it up. Here's what dictionary.com said:

      Trillion:
      1. The cardinal number equal to 10^12.
      2. Chiefly British. The cardinal number equal to 10^18.

      I did not know that! I guess we'll call that "a space probe crashes into a planet accident waiting to happen"

    5. Re:PPQ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Well, it's an American web site, what can you expect. The British terminology is actually also standard in other languages; the Americans are the odd ones out.

  2. Hmm...another coverup? by quinto2000 · · Score: 1

    this article at SatireWire might give us a clue.

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  3. the best idea by tps12 · · Score: 5, Funny
    You know what would be way better than bomb-detecting bees? Bee-detecting bombs!

    Imagine: a family reunion. Barbecue and beer in the park. The shady trees and babbling brook. Paradise.

    Then: the buzzing of bees! A nest of trouble, stirred up by your mischievous nephew!

    What to do?!?

    Enter: your anti-bee force! A fleet of tiny jets, autonomous yet steered by a microchip! They soar around, bombing the bees with poison gas! The festivities continue, bee free!

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    1. Re:the best idea by Atrahasis · · Score: 2

      Naah - just carry a few aof the trained bees around with you everywhere, (and of course a bomb). When you set up your picnic, put the bomb a safe distance away, and release your bees. They will teach any wild bees in the area to congregate around the bomb. Then just detonate the bomb.

    2. Re:the best idea by wsloand · · Score: 1

      Imagine: a family reunion. Barbecue and beer in the park. The shady trees and babbling brook. Paradise.

      Then: the buzzing of bees! A nest of trouble, stirred up by your mischievous nephew!


      "Jonny, quit buzzing like a bee... Oh well, he was an annoying nephew anyway."

  4. God I can't wait to teach them... by linzeal · · Score: 0, Troll

    To attack people who wear too much perfume/cologne. It will be some treat turning them loose on the sales staff.

  5. Diamond Age here we come... by tswinzig · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Will the bomb-carriers will have their own swarm of bees trained to kill any bees sniffing around in their vicinity?

    Will they also train the bees to viciously swarm and attack the person carrying the bomb?

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  6. Why Bees are a brilliant choice! by soulcuttr · · Score: 4, Funny
    I can see in my head what will happen.
    1. A bomb threat is called in
    2. The local beekeeper is called
    3. A few trained bees teach the beekeeper's bees in an impromptu training session
    4. A voice over a megaphone exclaims "RELEASE THE BEES!"
    And the reaction...?

    People running and screaming from the building used to scream "There's a bomb in the building!"
    Now they will scream "There's a bomb and BEES in the building!"

    -Sou|cuttr
  7. thousandths, not thousands. by PhuCknuT · · Score: 1

    Which was phrased that way because most people don't know what a quadrillion is.

  8. few parts per billion?!! by PaddyM · · Score: 1

    No wonder those pesky bees are always finding my hidden stash of honey. And we're giving them radio transmitters??!!!

  9. Fun with Alliteration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's all this buzz about bomb sniffing bees?

  10. who needs a part in a trillion ? by dario_moreno · · Score: 3, Interesting


    when we can make...MILLIONS !

    More seriously : what if some terrorist
    shows up at the airport with a friend
    covered by pollen and sugar ? What
    would be the bee prefer ?

    And how do the bee teach to each other the smell
    of TNT ? The dance they perform would be
    interesting to decode from the semantical
    point of view (I had read stuff about how
    they expressed "next left relative to sun
    after the tree 20 yards from the hive" )

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  11. Don't need a Diamond Age by devphil · · Score: 2
    Will the bomb-carriers will have their own swarm of bees trained to kill any bees sniffing around in their vicinity?

    They won't need to train anything. Just have some other bees, or wasps, or large birds, or my neighbor's dog, or anything else that naturally chases and [tries to] eat bees.

    Will they also train the bees to viciously swarm and attack the person carrying the bomb?

    They won't be able to train them; they'd have to grow them or gene-splice them or install little patent-lawyer brains in them (i.e., if it moves, attack it). But training them to attack something mobile that isn't threatening the hive probably won't work. Especially if the bees themselves are in the time of year where they're looking for a place to nest -- when threatened, they just leave. It's /after/ they've chosen a place for a nest that they get territorial and need to be viciously exterminated.

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  12. Bees teaching bees by DaoudaW · · Score: 3, Informative

    And how do the bee teach to each other the smell of TNT ?

    I just heard this story on NPR and the researcher described how to train the bees. Simply add the scent of TNT to a feeding station filled with sugar water. Pretty soon the bees associate the smell of TNT with food.

    I'd guess the bees learn from each other in a similar way. They follow the directions (given in the normal way) to the feeding station and soon they too associate the smell with food.

  13. Hmmmm... by jo42 · · Score: 1

    What do they do, buzz out the chemical structure of the molecules or just buzz in Morse code?