r* Programs Being Removed from OpenBSD -current

moonboy writes: "This post over at OpenBSD Journal tells of the r* programs (rsh, rlogin, rcopy, etc) being removed from the -current tree. Can Telnet and FTP be far behind? I say good riddance."

Comments

Re:Fucking summarize

[Anonymous Coward]

Maybe if you would read the stories, you'd notice that these are about two _different_ BSD's.

Re:BSD is not dying, it's busy cleaning

[realdpk]

netcat should be made standard as a replacement. :)

Re:BSD is not dying, it's busy cleaning

[Arandir]

Perl hasn't been removed. Please read the other article. Perl is being removed from the *base* system. It is still available in the ports. It sounds like it will also be installed by default anyway, just like X11R6 (which isn't in the base system, but still installed by default).

The reasons they are getting rid of it in the base system are numerous. The top reason in my mind is that Perl is growing enormous. It's a damn useful tool, but it isn't necessary for the base system, especially with the size it's getting. If you need it, install it. Simple.

Re:BSD is not dying, it's busy cleaning

[quinto2000]

Sftp, Kerberized FTP, etc. They'll work with the non-secure servers when that's all that's available, but will use security by default. I like Kerberos. SCP is the best option, but a pain for its lack of interactive use.

Anyway, I think the point is to remove these services, not to remove the clients. It is a security risk when it's so tempting to use it, but it's so vulnerable to exploits.

Re:Interesting discussion

[evilviper]

As a BSD'er with +49 Karma, I think I can field this question.

Why post comments on Slashdot's BSD section? Slashdot is a terrible news distribution system, and even worse is the BSD section which is almost completely ignored by the admins.

The point? There are plenty of other BSD sites to discuss these things on.
http://Deadly.org for OpenBSD specific stuff.
http://BSDToday.com for more general BSD stuff.
http://www.daemonnews.org/
http://www.maximumbsd.com/
http://www.freebsdfo rums.org/
http://bsdvault.net/
http://bsdatwork. com/
http://www.bsdfreaks.nl/

And even more, lesser known sites. So my question is, why worry about the slashdot / bsd site which only gets a new bit of info every couple of weeks? There are plenty of better options which have news, tutorials, tips, etc. for those interested in BSD.